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    Default Is HRC Bisexual / Lesbian? Some Questions.

    There are innumerous reports out - from reputable reporting sources - that HRC is either bisexual or a lesbian.

    I intend to start a thread on the subject, with the intent to ask the following to the group:

    1. Do these reports seem credible, or not.
    2. Should it matter if she is bisexual / lesbian, as it relates of her candidacy for office?
    3. Will that question matter to most Americans, come November, rightly or wrongly?
    4. If it matters, how strongly would it influence voters in November - for well or ill?
    5. If these reports are being reputably reported, and easily available, why isn't the mainstream media reporting on them - and should they, or not?
    6. Should she be asked about it, and be required to respond? What if she confirms it? Denies it?

    Are these all fair questions to ask, in your opinion?

    Link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...automatic.html

    Link: http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/7070784

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    It shouldn't matter if she bangs more guys than NYY or more chicks than RB, people's opinion of her in regards to the election should be based solely on her merits, ideas, ability, etc.

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    There's a damned big difference between "is", "maybe", "could", "should" and "will".

    My responses:

    1. The reports are credible. I don't know about those making the statements.
    2. No.
    3. Yes.
    4. She will garner some who are outwardly empathetic, primarily amongst those already voting for her, but overall, it will effectively end her chances of being elected. No, nobody will say that it does - just the opposite, in fact - but it will, as soon as the voting booth curtain is pulled.
    5. Either they don't feel that it's credible, at best, or they know that she is and won't report it for fear of hurting her election chances, at worst.
    6. Yes, she should be asked about it, but not because of relevance to the candidacy, but rather, because she deserves a chance to answer to it, and the American people deserve a chance to know and weigh it, accordingly. But also, the alternative - of having it just linger out there - is infinitely worse for her campaign, no matter whether she is or not, or gives a definitive answer to it.

    My $.02

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    Quote Originally Posted by TennTradition View Post
    Don't care.
    Will the average American voter?

    Do they have a right to know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenacious D View Post
    Will the average American voter?

    Do they have a right to know?
    Only if they're a bigot or a homophobe.

    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dooz View Post
    Only if they're a bigot or a homophobe.

    No.
    Are bigots and homophobes disallowed from casting a vote?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenacious D View Post
    Are bigots and homophobes disallowed from casting a vote?
    What do you think?

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    Don't give a shit at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dooz View Post
    What do you think?
    No, I don't think that they are disallowed from voting.

    But if you do not provide information to them that would allow them to make their own decision, aren't you somewhat hindering their ability to make an informed decision?

    Is that ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volst53 View Post
    Don't give a shit at all.
    What about those who may - do they have a right to know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenacious D View Post
    What about those who may - do they have a right to know?
    No. What goes in and/or around her vagina is nobody's business and matters **** all in her ability/inability to lead a country.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tmac61 View Post
    Not bright enough? Where does that even come from. I'm 31 years old and a highly decorated journalist. Ive done more things in 3 decades then most will in their entire life. I am certainly bright and intelligent. I work in a field that demands it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenacious D View Post
    What about those who may - do they have a right to know?
    I don't think she's inclined to have to come out if she doesn't want to if its true.

    Should trump have to tell if he watches porn or any number of other objectionable lifestyle choices that might sway voters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenacious D View Post
    No, I don't think that they are disallowed from voting.

    But if you do not provide information to them that would allow them to make their own decision, aren't you somewhat hindering their ability to make an informed decision?

    Is that ok?
    What if the length of Trump's Johnson is important to some voters. Would he then be obligated to provide pics of his yogurt slinger to the whole country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenacious D View Post
    No, I don't think that they are disallowed from voting.

    But if you do not provide information to them that would allow them to make their own decision, aren't you somewhat hindering their ability to make an informed decision?

    Is that ok?
    Is it OK to be a bigot or a homophobe?

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    i wouldn't have voted for her today, and i wouldn't vote for her tomorrow if i found out she was a lesbian
    Tennessee, sono solo con te, sempre per te, ma madonna, lo fai difficile qualche volta....

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    1. Do these reports seem credible, or not.
    The outlets are credible enough.

    2. Should it matter if she is bisexual / lesbian, as it relates of her candidacy for office?
    Has no bearing on qualifications for office.

    3. Will that question matter to most Americans, come November, rightly or wrongly?
    Not sure about 'most' Americans but, yes, it will have relevance with many voters.

    4. If it matters, how strongly would it influence voters in November - for well or ill?
    On its own, I'm not sure. The country has evolved significantly on this topic over the last 10-20 years, so I'm not sure it would be a deal breaker individually. The problem with Hillary is the compound effect. She's already a significantly damaged candidate, so adding this to her 'issues' pile (how many will view it) will not help her in the slightest.

    Also, though the GLBT community hardly decides elections, many would not come flocking to her were this true. Rather, they would ask "why did it take you so damn long to champion GLBT issues when you were one of us?". She by no means has the entirety of the community on her side.

    5. If these reports are being reputably reported, and easily available, why isn't the mainstream media reporting on them - and should they, or not?
    Probably a road they are reluctant to travel. As she is the wife of a former (popular) president, a mother and perhaps most importantly a Clinton, I'd guess they want to have a level of certainty before they broach that subject. That said, I don't have a problem with the media reporting on it if they are comfortable with the available information.

    6. Should she be asked about it, and be required to respond? What if she confirms it? Denies it?
    This gets tricky. Sexuality is an extremely personal matter and wholly irrelevant to political office. We're squarely in the "none ya damn business" zone with that line of questioning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyQuickkick View Post
    i wouldn't have voted for her today, and i wouldn't vote for her tomorrow if i found out she was a lesbian
    x2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volst53 View Post
    I don't think she's inclined to have to come out if she doesn't want to if its true.

    Should trump have to tell if he watches porn or any number of other objectionable lifestyle choices that might sway voters
    Excellent question.

    What's the answer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenacious D View Post
    Excellent question.

    What's the answer?
    No but the media is free to look into it by any legal means if they so wish.

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    So only GCB is willing to answer 3-5?

    Cowards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InVolNerable View Post
    No. What goes in and/or around her vagina is nobody's business and matters **** all in her ability/inability to lead a country.
    That's your opinion.

    Out of 100 average Americans do you think feel the same way, as you, and how many would feel strongly against your opinion as to its importance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyHillVol View Post
    What if the length of Trump's Johnson is important to some voters. Would he then be obligated to provide pics of his yogurt slinger to the whole country?
    Luckily, he's made strong illusion to his member.

    But then, people don't associate ethics / morality / decency with the size of a penis, anyway.

    And a great many - perhaps even a majority - do that exact thing, with a candidate's sexuality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyQuickkick View Post
    i wouldn't have voted for her today, and i wouldn't vote for her tomorrow if i found out she was a lesbian
    So, you're completely ambivalent, either way.

    Would you say that most Americans would assume a similar stance as you? If not how far are you from the mainstream, and to what degree / severity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volst53 View Post
    No but the media is free to look into it by any legal means if they so wish.
    Can they? Sure. That's easy.

    The better - and more difficult question is - should they?

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