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    The one thorn in his side that won't seem to go away deserves its own thread, at this point, especially considering the news regarding Sessions yesterday. A number of Republicans are stating that Sessions should recuse himself from the Russia investigations for his false or misleading statements at his hearing.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/02/u...rats.html?_r=0

    The ramifications for this continuing Russia deal, to me, is that this opens the door for a special prosecutor type or more independent inquisition into the matter. Like I said before, I don't know where this situation is heading for Trump and his administration, but it isn't going away anytime soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unimane View Post
    The one thorn in his side that won't seem to go away deserves its own thread, at this point, especially considering the news regarding Sessions yesterday. A number of Republicans are stating that Sessions should recuse himself from the Russia investigations for his false or misleading statements at his hearing.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/02/u...rats.html?_r=0

    The ramifications for this continuing Russia deal, to me, is that this opens the door for a special prosecutor type or more independent inquisition into the matter. Like I said before, I don't know where this situation is heading for Trump and his administration, but it isn't going away anytime soon.
    Sessions should recuse himself because he's a part of the administration that will be investigated.

    And before anyone jumps on me for that, I am a firm believer that that acting AG should never be involved in investigating the administration under which he serves. I don't care who is President.

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    1. The "Russian" thing - and which every federal agency has said there there is precisely zero evidence to suggest exists - keeps coming up....because the Dems keep alleging it, if not to produce or compel the truth, then to cause opportunely timed political damage. Like Flynn, the basic facts of these allegations have been known for weeks...but only come out after Trump's widely applauded speech to the joint session of Congress. That doesn't make the allegations false, but neither does it make them true.

    2. If these misdeeds occurred, and if some untoward involvement with Trump's team and Russia has occurred or does exist, then state the specifics of your case, put on your proof and defend it. Until then, and these allegations are proven true, forgive me for seeing this as nothing more than just the latest installment in a game of political muckraking.

    3. If Sessions, or anyone else, is legitimately believed to have committed perjury, they should be investigated. If the evidence of that investigation proves that the accused committed that act, and beyond any reasonable doubt, then he should be held criminally accountable, punished accordingly. And if Sessions has done this, then there should be no exemption made for him, whatsoever, and he should absolutely be punished and forced to resign as AG, at a minimum.

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    Are we in the 1950's again?

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    Where is the crime?


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    Quote Originally Posted by VolDad View Post
    Where is the crime?

    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/07/what-...-congress.html
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    Sessions is recusing himself from Trump campaign investigations.

    That's the right decsision. Why make this more of a story?

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    Lets pretend that Trump called Putin himself and said, "Hey Putin, my brother from another mother, sic you bad boys on Clinton"; what Law(s) would he have broken?

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    I am unaware of Trump testifying before Congress. When did that take place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VolDad View Post
    Lets pretend that Trump called Putin himself and said, "Hey Putin, my brother from another mother, sic you bad boys on Clinton"; what Law(s) would he have broken?
    Are you saying that encouraging a foreign government to interfere in our election isn't a crime?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TennTradition View Post
    Sessions is recusing himself from Trump campaign investigations.

    That's the right decsision. Why make this more of a story?
    He would have recused himself regardless of this fake news story today because he was part of the campaign. It would have been improper for him to oversee an investigation into a campaign he helped work on. So the Anti-American Party Dems get to claim a faux victory. Again, the Russian narrative is a CIA creation. There is nothing there, but the Dems want it to be true so bad. It is quite comical once you really see what is going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dooz View Post
    Are you saying that encouraging a foreign government to interfere in our election isn't a crime?
    What is the crime?

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    Good thing Sessions didn't lie to Congress then. Dems have become so pitiful. Anti-American globalist agenda supporting scumbags. Hard to believe they have become so irrelevant. Only thing propping their sad existence up is their propaganda mouthpiece media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VolDad View Post
    What is the crime?
    So it's cool? A move along, nothing to see here kind of thing?

    Because, "hey there's no crime...hahahaha"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dooz View Post
    So it's cool? A move along, nothing to see here kind of thing?

    Because, "hey there's no crime...hahahaha"?
    Lets pretend that it is proven that Trump called Putin himself and said, "Hey Putin, my brother from another mother, sic your bad boys on Clinton".

    What happens then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VolDad View Post
    Lets pretend that it is proven that Trump called Putin himself and said, "Hey Putin, my brother from another mother, sic your bad boys on Clinton".

    What happens then?
    I guess we all have to be cool with it, because "NO CRIME SUCKERS!!".

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    Lets pretend that Dooz contacted Putin (phone call. email, what not) and asked him to torpedo Trump.

    What should happen to DooZ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VolDad View Post
    I am unaware of Trump testifying before Congress. When did that take place?
    I'm saying Sessions may have committed a crime. And that makes 2 who contacted Russia and lied about it. How many before you get suspicious? If it helps, pretend they aren't Republicans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ben4vols View Post
    He would have recused himself regardless of this fake news story today because he was part of the campaign. It would have been improper for him to oversee an investigation into a campaign he helped work on. So the Anti-American Party Dems get to claim a faux victory. Again, the Russian narrative is a CIA creation. There is nothing there, but the Dems want it to be true so bad. It is quite comical once you really see what is going on.
    Why did he initially say he wouldn't recuse himself, then?

    You're trying so hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolDad View Post
    Lets pretend that Dooz contacted Putin (phone call. email, what not) and asked him to torpedo Trump.

    What should happen to DooZ?
    Are you wanting a legal opinion, or are you saying you have no problem with foreign interference in American elections? I thought it was liberals who were the globalists?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IP View Post
    Are you wanting a legal opinion, or are you saying you have no problem with foreign interference in American elections? I thought it was liberals who were the globalists?
    I am fine with an investigation. I am just trying to figure out the end game for those wanting an investigation. Lets pretend it is proven that Trump spoke to Putin asking to crush Hillary. Then what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VolDad View Post
    I am fine with an investigation. I am just trying to figure out the end game for those wanting an investigation. Lets pretend it is proven that Trump spoke to Putin asking to crush Hillary. Then what?
    Depends on the details. At a minimum, the American people have a right to know. Do you find the idea, as fantastic as it may seem, that he colluded with Russia to win and may be influenced in any number of ways by Russia to be the least bit disturbing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IP View Post
    Why did he initially say he wouldn't recuse himself, then?

    You're trying so hard.
    Start at 5:20 to 7:30


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    Quote Originally Posted by IP View Post
    Why did he initially say he wouldn't recuse himself, then?

    You're trying so hard.
    I am not finding this on the interwebz; source?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VolDad View Post
    Start at 5:20 to 7:30

    He initially said he wouldn't, when he was being asked because of the first guy who was talking to Russia about sanction relief.
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