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    Default Connecticut Shootings, Christmastime, and Christianity

    If you believe the gospel, the link below may help you give some meaning to an act that otherwise seems meaningless:

    Moore to the Point – School Shootings and Spiritual Warfare

    We live in a warzone.

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    Amen. Well said, rdm.
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    Always appreciate Dr Moore.

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    makes you wonder is the kid was a devil worshipper .
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    Disgusting. Using mass murder to push a religious dogma. Superstitious idiocy only blinds us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by possumslayer View Post
    makes you wonder is the kid was a devil worshipper .
    Exhibit A as to why this is awful.
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    No.

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    evil is everywhere
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    Quote Originally Posted by possumslayer View Post
    evil is everywhere
    It doesn't mean evil is supernatural
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    No.

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    ip, you ever steal a baby Jesus from a nativity scene?
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    No. I'm sure I must be a devil worshiper too, though. Keep imagining that spiritual warfare all around, Don Quixote.
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    why are you so disrespectful of others beliefs .
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    Quote Originally Posted by IP View Post
    Disgusting. Using mass murder to push a religious dogma. Superstitious idiocy only blinds us.
    He posted it on a Christian website.

    And what is he supposed to do? Totally ignore current events?

    There are loads of people that are about to exploit the hell out of this tragedy. One guy posting a blog of consolation on a Christian website is about as non-exploitive as it will get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IP View Post
    Disgusting. Using mass murder to push a religious dogma. Superstitious idiocy only blinds us.
    Superstition?
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    I'm not. Vehemently disagreeing with them isn't the same as disrespecting them. I am not physically harming anyone, damaging property, or picketing. I am expressing a completely different world view. If you find that to be disrespectful, that is your personal problem. If that is the case, how could public prayer, preaching, etc not be disrespectful to anyone not of that given faith as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kptvol View Post
    He posted it on a Christian website.

    And what is he supposed to do? Totally ignore current events?

    There are loads of people that are about to exploit the hell out of this tragedy. One guy posting a blog of consolation on a Christian website is about as non-exploitive as it will get.
    Getting the rabble all fired up about about the "satanic" powers is disgusting. I don't care if it is written on a bathroom stall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYYVol View Post
    Superstition?
    "But we do know what this act is: it’s satanic, and we should say so."

    The boogie men had a hand in this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IP View Post
    I'm not. Vehemently disagreeing with them isn't the same as disrespecting them. I am not physically harming anyone, damaging property, or picketing. I am expressing a completely different world view. If you find that to be disrespectful, that is your personal problem. If that is the case, how could public prayer, preaching, etc not be disrespectful to anyone not of that given faith as well?
    At some point, a point you reached quite a long time ago, you are no better than the aggressive evangelists you've complained about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IP View Post
    Getting the rabble all fired up about about the "satanic" powers is disgusting. I don't care if it is written on a bathroom stall.
    You either don't understand some of the terms you are using, assume that we do not, or your comment about respect is bullshit.

    And Satan is the ultimate representation of evil. Stating that he would have a hand in horrifically evil acts isn't exactly groundbreaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IP View Post
    "But we do know what this act is: it’s satanic, and we should say so."

    The boogie men had a hand in this.
    I understand that you don't believe that evil is supernatural. I get that. But heinous acts like this help solidify that belief for those of us that do. But calling it superstition is a tad bit of a reach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IP View Post
    Getting the rabble all fired up about about the "satanic" powers is disgusting. I don't care if it is written on a bathroom stall.
    Christian cosmology has always held that powers are at work in the world and that all evil can be attributed-either directly or indirectly-to these supernatural beings. Is it this tenet of Christianity you find disgusting in general or Moore's article in particular?
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    Expressing a different world view is great. But when you refer to Christian beliefs as "idiocy" and Christians as "rabble", it's hard to understand how that's not disrespectful, and that's "your problem."

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    Quote Originally Posted by IP View Post
    Disgusting. Using mass murder to push a religious dogma. Superstitious idiocy only blinds us.
    Completely agree. Shameful some people have to us this tragedy for their own benefit. China and Japan don't have our problem with mass shootings. Doesn't seem the lack of following Christ has hurt those countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by droski View Post
    Completely agree. Shameful some people have to us this tragedy for their own benefit. China and Japan don't have our problem with mass shootings. Doesn't seem the lack of following Christ has hurt those countries.
    Didn't China just have a mass attack at a school last week. A guy went in and stabbed an entire class. Didn't have a gun - but seems equally evil

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    Quote Originally Posted by droski View Post
    Completely agree. Shameful some people have to us this tragedy for their own benefit. China and Japan don't have our problem with mass shootings. Doesn't seem the lack of following Christ has hurt those countries.
    You're right. China's been completely devoid of mass murder for the last hundred years or so.

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