COVID-19 (artist formerly known as Wuhan strain novel Corona virus)

Discussion in 'The Thunderdome' started by IP, Jan 28, 2020.

  1. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    Many more cases isn’t some great stat. You want a virus that doesn’t kill a high percentage and doesn’t spread from person to person easily. One being low at the expense of the other isn’t some great improvement. 1% of 1 million or 0.1% of ten million is the same outcome.
     
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  2. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    You say this like it's a bad thing.
     
  3. TennTradition

    TennTradition Super Moderator

    Totally agree. That’s the same point I was making in the two strains thought experiment.

    The one way it is better is you will start establishing herd immunity sooner and in the end see fewer deaths. But that is a later effect.
     
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  4. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    lol, we've gone down this road like 3 times at least.
     
  5. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    Yeah, but flu kills more.
     
  6. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    Well evidently a pretty huge portion of the country took an alternate route.
     
  7. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    The end of the world: when there is no more room in hell, 9th grade math word problems shall walk the Earth.
     
  8. TBSVOL

    TBSVOL Member

    FWIW, Since my days of being 10ft tall and bulletproof are long gone, I started plotting the TN data
    This is data from the noted sources, do I believe them to be 100% correct, not really, data is what data is, for example .....
    TN case count is based solely on testing from the state lab and 3rd party.
    It might be conceivable that one got it, had no insurance, stayed home and recovered = no data.
    Deaths are most likely the most accurate - everybody seems to want to report a death.
    IMO, Recovered is rather fluffy if not down right inaccurate.
    Worldometer did have a column for this but has since been removed and have revised their format to show Recovered and Death for the country.
    I cannot find a data site that provides recovery so currently TN Recovered = (Total Cases - Deaths) - Active Cases.
    It may be true, but it's difficult for me to realize that only 392 have recovered from 62,852 US cases.
    So if you're interested, my daddy always told me ideas were like assholes, so here's mine.
    upload_2020-3-25_14-38-49.png
     
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  9. 2Maggitt2Quit

    2Maggitt2Quit Chieftain

    I think it might matter more in terms of getting back to normal. I'm probably simplifying it too much, but a greater amount of untracked, asymptomatic cases increases the effectiveness of herd immunity after this first, severe wave of cases.

    Edit: Just saw TT beat me there.
     
  10. TBSVOL

    TBSVOL Member

    If you're interested, Here's today's TN data by county - glad I don't live in Middle Tennessee
    upload_2020-3-25_14-54-57.png
     
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  11. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    Cumberland Plateau - Keeps severe weather AND pandemic viruses moving from Middle TN to East TN!
     
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  12. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Went to the White House...Again

    Sorry IP, that you have lol'd and been thru it 3 times, but IMFO, if/when there are more and more patients and the death rate drops from say 10% in italy to .5 here, im going to view it as a positive in this process. I would cosider it to be bad news, should the death rate should stay level or increase, no matter if 1 million or 10 million have CV. Its not my problem if you have a problem with simple reasoning.
     
  13. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    I haven't seen anyone mention this, but it looks like US outbreak areas would strongly correlate to county GDP
     
  14. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    I actually didn't say anything to you, but am glad you view me as a safe space to vent.
     
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  15. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    It’s because we don’t call every soft drink in the world coke.
     
  16. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    We aren’t even sure how that could work. There have been reports of a few people having been infected twice already.
     
  17. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    Thems fighting words buddy.
     
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  18. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    The only two important pieces of information in regards to policy decisions at this point are that it makes enough people sick to completely screw huge regions and that restricting person to person contact is the only effective way to counter the virus that we’ve identified so far.
     
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  19. TennTradition

    TennTradition Super Moderator

    I’m still hopeful that’s rare based on occurrences.
     
  20. gcbvol

    gcbvol Fabulous Moderator

    More likely the NYY Effect.
     

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