POLITICS 2020 Election

Discussion in 'Politicants' started by CardinalVol, Nov 7, 2018.

  1. Indy

    Indy Pronoun Analyst

    Lol is this your new go to? People say things, and you just repeat that the things they say are empty talking points? Sad.

    You can't use Conservative and Liberal on the court interchangeably with conservative and liberal politically. It's not the same thing. A Conservative justice is called conservative because of his or her approach to interpreting the Constitution, not because of what political party he or she supports.

    In the decision I posted on just the last page, Gorsuch ruled that discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity is necessarily also discrimination "because of sex." Title VII covers discrimination because of sex. A Conservative, or an "originalist" should read Title VII, see that neither sexual orientation or gender identity are covered in the text, consider the time in which Title VII was written (1964), understand that sexual orientation was likely not intended to be included by the writer, and gender identity CERTAINLY was not intended to be included by the writer, and then rule that it's not discrimination under Title VII.

    From there, if the legislature wants to pass a new law that makes firing gay or transgender people because of their being gay or transgender illegal, they're free to do so. That's the way the country was designed to operate. It is not the Supreme Court's job to write the law or impose their own policy views on the Constitution.
     
  2. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    It was posted above, when I said "I would..." I was referring to what I would do. Hence, I used "I."
     
  3. zehr27

    zehr27 8th's VIP

    You mean where you said I would do this but also consider this?
     
  4. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    This is not at all true. Even Scalia couldn't his own people to buy strict interpretation, which is this idea that you take laws as written.

    All justices cite law when making a Constitutional consideration. Neither is about imposing a view that isn't backed by the Constitution, law, or precedent.

    As to the feelings, thing, this is pure fantasy. Read dissents.

    We can absolutely agree that we don't agree on what these three things mean, but Gorsuch or Kavanaugh crossing the line here or there doesn't make either a moderate. I've pointed to the 14th Amendment for the ruling that you think makes one of them a moderate, and I got crickets.
     
  5. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    Yes, do you struggle to understand what that sentence means? Should I break it down?

    I - me
    would - the action I take
    add two seats - means add two seats
    and consider - means give thought to, without action
    adding four - means add four

    Does this help? Which word is giving trouble?
     
  6. zehr27

    zehr27 8th's VIP

    Yes, thanks LSWVOL.
     
  7. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    If this is supposed to mean something to me, it doesn't.
     
  8. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    I said trust in the legitimacy of the court is already deeply damaged. you originally indicated adding seats would make it political, but have then gone on to describe it entirely through a political lens. That you think kavanaugh and Gorsuch are moderate based on a couple of rulings screams how broken the court already is. So there's nothing risked by attempting to balance it.
     
  9. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    I finally figured this one out, and it's just more of you lacking reading comprehension, coupled with a poor memory, and terrible association.

    First, the dude's handle was LWSVOL. (poor memory)

    And his shtick was saying that, basically, something would happen, or nothing would happen. "He'll be a Vol, unless he isn't." type statements.

    But I'm not saying that nothing would happen, I'm saying that something would absolutely happen. (Terrible association, as something absolutely happening is not the same as "maybe" happening).

    But what would absolutely happen would be variable, but to add the four, there would need to be a very compelling argument. But the need for two would need no argument. (Lacking reading comprehension).
     
  10. Indy

    Indy Pronoun Analyst

    I didn’t say Gorsuch and Kavanaugh are moderate based on a couple rulings. I stated that while most people suggested they would be staunchly conservative, they have been relatively moderate in their ruling during their short time on the Supreme Court.

    Did I say that adding seats “makes” it political? I don’t think I did. Adding seats is a political action, but it’s been political. Because the left wants to legislate from the bench. Go back and listen the speech from Obama about empathy.
     
  11. zehr27

    zehr27 8th's VIP

    Well put LWSVOL. I thought miss spelling the name might delay you figuring out the comment. I like that you took the time to figure it out.
     
  12. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    Too many lies in a post is unbecoming.
     
  13. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator



    Will be curious to see if this thing grows legs.
     
  14. The Dooz

    The Dooz Super Moderator

    It did yesterday, a bit, because people are stupid, but...

     
  15. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Went to the White House...Again

    Of course. Biden lies repeatedly about Ukraine, but we need to ignore it, because hes a dem and everybody else is stupid.
    The lefty way. Clown show.
     
  16. The Dooz

    The Dooz Super Moderator

    Didn’t expect my point to be proven that fast, but not surprised by the person who did.
     
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  17. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    it's all fake, it isn't even an internally consistent narrative. even the metadata of the pdfs of the email show that this stuff was manufactured.
     
  18. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Went to the White House...Again

    Do Biden never had a clue about his son and ukraine?
    Ok.
     
  19. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Went to the White House...Again

    Blah blah. Please go protest and run your mouth to the wrong person.Whiny ass [ussy pay] lefty.
     
  20. The Dooz

    The Dooz Super Moderator

    Twice, in the span of 30ish minutes. Impressive.
     

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