POLITICS 2020 Election

Discussion in 'Politicants' started by CardinalVol, Nov 7, 2018.

  1. TennTradition

    TennTradition Super Moderator

    Im not sure he has it in him to go 5 more years, no. But he’ll see him through the election. Then the ex-con can come in.
     
  2. zehr27

    zehr27 8th's VIP

    A lifelong Democrat
     
  3. gcbvol

    gcbvol Fabulous Moderator

    They used a partial clip to make it appear he's fine and dandy with folks losing their private insurance. What he was actually saying is he wants to have both private and public options available for folks to choose and if the public option is better than what private plans can offer then he doesn't care if they fail as long as all Americans have affordable healthcare.

    Pete's the dude who is actually being pragmatic and trusting Americans to make the best choice for themselves. He said nothing wrong and you trying to frame this as some kind of catastrophic fail is disingenuous, obtuse or both.

    That someone as intelligent as you continue to fall for these ridiculous right wing smears is beyond disappointing.
     
  4. zehr27

    zehr27 8th's VIP

    I think Pete is the best spoken candidate and is a very intelligent. The one thing that I have heard that kind of concerns me is he can be easily bought (not that uncommon for a politician). I'm afraid he is a little green and might get in over his head in a place like Washington DC.
     
  5. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    milken's been out of jail for years too. it doesn't make a lot of sense.
     
  6. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    You don’t know what Barr is working on now.

    It won’t take a year to get it done.

    Who is the ex-con you fear?
     
  7. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    I’m amazed that all of these political savants don’t think to wonder such obvious questions, such as this.

    Amazed, I tell ya.
     
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  8. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    GCB -
    You’re making my point, again. Mayor Pete said he “doesn’t care” what his plan would mean - including even if that meant that 180M Americans lost their private health insurance.

    Yes, there are other things that he also doesn’t care about - but he doesn’t care about that, amongst those.

    Here’s another way of saying what he said:
    “I, Mayor Pete, don’t care if 180M Americans lose their private health insurance because they’ll still have health insurance after they’re forced onto a guv-mint funded healthcare plan, whether they like it or not.”

    Heads up: An overwhelming majority of those 180M+ people will hate that. Despise it.

    And they won’t vote for the cat who proposes it.

    That’s what is true, what he said and which is still absolutely 100% correct. There’s nothing conspiratorial about it.

    This is a losing proposition for Mayor Pete, and it’s silly that he keeps espousing it.

    You can be for him, while I actually try to help him.
     
  9. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    He’s too robotic, and terrified to get off script.

    Because he’s in over his head.

    Fortunately, even if he somehow miraculously wins the Dem nomination....he won’t have to worry about a guy who specializes in forcing people off script.
     
  10. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    I know, right?

    Here’s a secret about Trump that these political geniuses still haven’t managed to piece together:

    There’s always a motive. Always.

    If you ever wonder why Trump is doing something, you just have to look at the very recent past for the reasons why.

    Now, the motives and the action may be terrible, self-harming, dumb, petty, angry, or even bordering on the absurd.....but there is always a motive.

    Why Blagojevich - who is he, who did he replace, where is he from, who did he replace, why is he in jail, who did he replace, etc.?

    It ain’t rocket surgery as to who he’s aiming at, here.
     
  11. TennTradition

    TennTradition Super Moderator

    Blagojevich - he’ll make a great replacement even though he is a Dem.
     
  12. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    You goofball.
     
  13. TennTradition

    TennTradition Super Moderator


    He replaced George Ryan....
     
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  14. SGMVols

    SGMVols Contributor

    Just saw that the latest Quinnipiac poll in Wisconsin has Trump leading every Dem who was in last night’s debate by at least 7 points there. Hard to imagine Trump losing the election if he wins that state by that much.
     
  15. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    I think Tenny is referencing the position Blago was replacing, which was the Senate seat held by Obama. Essentially, I think he's getting at the point Trump commuted his sentence because he thinks he'll get something from Blago on Obama, which is the most pervasive obsession for Trump.
     
  16. TennTradition

    TennTradition Super Moderator

    It’s just generally difficult to see Trump losing the election.

    But I’m sure the dairy provisions in the trade deal are helping him there a lot.
     
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  17. gcbvol

    gcbvol Fabulous Moderator

    You've confused Pete with Bernie. Pete is the guy whose healthcare platform is based on choice. He has clearly said numerous times if the public option is not the better option we're going to be really happy we didn't kick folks off their private plans. It's literally one of his biggest differentiators with Sanders.

    The public option ensures no American is without healthcare. The context of that clip is about what the winning end solution might he. He's literally saying he doesn't care if it's the public option or private plans winning out as long as every American has affordable healthcare. This is not a difficult thing to research. Context and nuance are our friends.

    I have been following Pete and his policy positions and this is an intentional distortion/smear from Trump world trying to frame Pete as a socialist. It's false and pathetic.
     
  18. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    True, and Quinnipiac is a, generally, left leaning pollster. There are other pathways for Democratic victory, but the pathway without Wisconsin is very narrow. The margin seems odd, though, or just a sad state of affairs for my home state. Pennsylvania and Michigan are shown as Democratic by the same pollster and they are usually in line with the Dairy state.
     
  19. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    Your home state has turned on you
     
  20. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    I doubt it. It's one poll. The state was always pockets of different groups of people and pretty close in the electorate, which is why so many campaigns end up there every 4 years. I'd be shocked if it's +8 for anyone.
     

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