Austin Peay thoughts

Discussion in 'Vols Football' started by CardinalVol, Sep 9, 2023.

  1. LawVol16

    LawVol16 Member

    That was a weird game and a poor performance, but at the same time, things don’t seem that far from clicking. A lot of folks seem predisposed to hate on Milton, but his performance through two games has been fine; not transcendent, but fine.

    The receivers have played as poorly as possible, even guys that performed well last year. They start making plays and things look at lot different. I counted 5 drops through the first 20 minutes of game time, and it may have been more. A couple were on throws behind guys, but the catches weren’t nearly as difficult as what Bru/Keeton were making last year at times.

    Aside from that, I’m not sure that you can take much from this game. Flow was jacked up from the get go with the weather. We look like we prepped for Florida instead a coked-out 12 year old running every strange formation he can find on NCAA ‘14. Officiating was as poor as you’ll see and worth probably 14-21 points; we didn’t execute well enough to overcome it.

    Final thought - I know the AD likes to keep the money for these FCS buy games in-state, but I’d take AP out of the rotation. It’s a minor miracle we didn’t have a player blow out a knee. I’m not sure I’ve seen that many cut and chop blocks in the last ten years combined. Even on Castle’s late TD, the AP DB dove at his knee two yards deep in the endzone. It’s one thing to play with an edge and throw the kitchen sink at an opponent. It’s another to pull the crap they did last night.
     
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  2. JohnnyQuickkick

    JohnnyQuickkick Calcio correspondent

    The current offensive line + Joe Milton definitely worry me a little bit ngl
     
  3. JohnnyQuickkick

    JohnnyQuickkick Calcio correspondent

    Somebody said it last night on basilio, idk how true it would be, but with Milton throwing rockets like he does, passes just a little off are that much harder to catch. Made sense to me.
     
  4. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Went to the White House...Again

    Don’t blame Castle for his. That ball needs to float a little and let him make an easy catch an run. There was nobody near him. No need for 95 mph there on back shoulder of a TE running lateral
     
  5. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    You're right on target on all of this.
     
  6. PilotFlyingJ

    PilotFlyingJ Chieftain


    If you can equate the torso of the receiver to a strike zone, Milton was masterful at imitating Spencer Strider with 2 seams, 4 seams, and sliders all over the zone.
     
  7. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    Dude looked like he was on a coke/meth/caffeine trip all night long. Their last play of the game, he and his coach were hunkered down like they were planning the storming of the beaches of Iwo Jima.


    Down 17. With 20 seconds left.

    it was hilarious to me.
     
  8. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    I don't fault them for getting the most out of the opportunity and maybe try and carry over that intensity for the rest of the season. I do think that unless they plan on running the Emory and Henry once a game and diving at knees until players get ejected, don't come in playing that way just because it is the big school.
     
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  9. LawVol16

    LawVol16 Member

    Maybe, but we’re only talking about a couple of plays there (I think Castles and Bru on early crossers, but I can’t find a full game replay to confirm). I’m also not certain that the receivers didn’t misread the defense on those plays. AP ran a lot of zone, and neither receiver sat his route like you typically would with option routes.

    It seems like many want to blame Milton based on 6 quarters 2 seasons ago instead of reacting to what they’re actually seeing. Keyton’s drop last week + Thornton’s drop on 4th and 3 and the scramble drill on the sideline are as good as any receiver could want. They’ve just not been making plays.
     
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  10. Volgrad98

    Volgrad98 Contributor

    If you're still looking for a replay, here you go.

     
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  11. JohnnyQuickkick

    JohnnyQuickkick Calcio correspondent

    I definitely agree it’s on all of the above.
     
  12. PilotFlyingJ

    PilotFlyingJ Chieftain

    1. People were excusing Milton's awful play two years ago by blaming WRs. Those guys are in the NFL now while the same excuses are being recycled to protect the same QB.

    2. You know what's hard to catch ? A perfectly thrown pass thats preceded by 19 errant ones.
     
  13. LawVol16

    LawVol16 Member

    Agree to disagree. Any receivers coach is gonna tell you that if it hits your hands, you catch it. To suggest a perfectly thrown pass is more difficult to catch because the last three were two feet off target but catchable is absurd. A perfectly thrown pass is a perfectly thrown pass. That’s like suggesting a routine grounder to short becomes a more difficult play because the last three were crazy hops in the hole.

    Don’t get me wrong, Joe has room to improve, but his performance through two weeks isn’t the Overthrow Joe that was putting 10 yards to much on 9 routes to Jones and Peyton. He’s made throws that have to be caught and the receivers aren’t catching them. That’s been the difference in the offense clicking or not.
     
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  14. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    People need to go back and look at Hooker last year. If you think he was hitting everyone on the numbers, you are mistaken.
     
  15. Tar Volon

    Tar Volon Me Blog @RockyTopTalk.com

    Two years ago, Milton was generally fine on the short stuff and absolute trash downfield. I don’t think there was any way to excuse the latter because of the WRs.
     
  16. JohnnyQuickkick

    JohnnyQuickkick Calcio correspondent

    I just suspect it coming in at 98 mph makes a difference when it’s not on the money
     
  17. SGMVols

    SGMVols Contributor

    He caused Tillman’s ankle injury by overthrowing him
     
  18. SGMVols

    SGMVols Contributor

    If you can only catch a changeup then you don’t belong as a skill position player on an SEC roster. And you can forget playing on Sundays.
     
  19. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Well this place is on the precipice of getting pretty spicy.
     
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  20. JohnnyQuickkick

    JohnnyQuickkick Calcio correspondent

    Ok. Just think about it a little bit, though.
     

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