'17-'18 Nashville Predators

Discussion in 'Sports' started by JayVols, Oct 18, 2017.

  1. dknash

    dknash Chieftain

  2. emainvol

    emainvol Administrator

    Salty Blues fans are always entertaining, especially since the Blackhawks suck this year
     
  3. emainvol

    emainvol Administrator

    I'm not sure why so many folks seem to think the Rangers are getting Tolvanen.

    He's an 18 year old NHL-ready wing who would have an elite level shot if he stepped on the ice tomorrow for Nashville. This is not to mention that the scouting report from KHL says he's better than expected defensively and his playmaking ability is better than was originally advertised too.

    And they are going to trade him for a 3 months of a declining 33 year old winger? Yeah, okay

    Picks 3-29 [uck fay]ed up
     
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2018
  4. emainvol

    emainvol Administrator

    That's not directed at Brant btw.
     
  5. Joseph Brant

    Joseph Brant Airbrush Aficionado

    The fact that the 4 teams most mentioned as landing spots for BDR are in the same division is a big plus, I think the return will be pretty impressive considering who he is at this point in his career.

    My gut feeling is he comes back to NY after the season and finishes his career there.
     
  6. emainvol

    emainvol Administrator

    I hope one of those other teams mortgages the future for him for your sake. Poile won't, especially not with the best offensive player he's ever drafted
     
  7. NashVol11

    NashVol11 Well-Known Member

    Think Tolvanen > Fiala? I knew he was a steal, but that's exciting
     
  8. emainvol

    emainvol Administrator

    All around? No. Fiala is a more complete player. Offensively? Yeah, I think so.

    Of course, this is based on potential for now, it's easy for me to say that based on his ceiling (and he sure seems entirely capable of hitting that ceiling) but he may not. That said, he's way more advanced offensively at 18 than Fiala was.
     
  9. dknash

    dknash Chieftain

    For where we are in our Stanley Cup window, I think it might not be the worst idea to cash in on Tolvanen's hype. Not for a rental, though. I probably wouldn't think this if he hadn't hit a cold spell, FWIW.

    Ideally a top-6 winger nearing the end of RFA that we can extend through peak (basically a good outcome for Tolvanen shifted up a couple years to better align with the rest of our team).
     
  10. Joseph Brant

    Joseph Brant Airbrush Aficionado

    I mean, he traded a #1 for Paul Gaustad....never say never.
     
  11. Joseph Brant

    Joseph Brant Airbrush Aficionado

    Personally hoping Winnipeg goes in big for Nash or Zucc. Their system has lots of talent and their window is a bit smaller than Nashville's I think, so we may get a better haul.
     
  12. emainvol

    emainvol Administrator

    Part of that cold spell was losing his center for several weeks. This kid is 18 playing against men, he was going to have a slump at some point. No way I'm trading him, he's going to be an All Star before our window closes
     
  13. dknash

    dknash Chieftain

    He has 6 points in 2 Olympic games since I posted (the first might have already happened prior but I saw it after). So it looks like the slump is busted.

    If perennial all-star is your expectation, it would obviously be tough to get back equivalent value. I just worry a bit about the track record (he's performed like a consensus top 5 overall, but that wasn't evident pre-draft), with a dash of KHL-phobia (Radulov, Steve "Holy" Moses). Whether it's fair or not.

    Although the list of guys I'd move him for is pretty much the list of guys whose teams wouldn't move them for any reason, so it's kind of a moot point. Maybe Jeff Skinner extended?
     
  14. emainvol

    emainvol Administrator

    Jeff Skinner is too much of an injury risk imo.

    Maybe Pacioretty extended although he's still a little old.
     
  15. emainvol

    emainvol Administrator

    Of course, I still think the most likely thing we do at the deadline (outside of standing pat) is trade for Vanek
     
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2018
  16. Joseph Brant

    Joseph Brant Airbrush Aficionado

    In fairness he's not a "KHL Guy". He's a Finn who plays for Jokerit, which was in Liiga until a few years ago. Totally different dynamic than a Russian playing for one of the Russian governemts chosen few teams
     
  17. YankeeVol

    YankeeVol Member

  18. YankeeVol

    YankeeVol Member

    Good win.

    Arvi cane close in the 3rd to getting the hat trick. Would have been cool to see
     
  19. Joseph Brant

    Joseph Brant Airbrush Aficionado

    Rangers got Holden from Colorado for a 4th last year, moved him for a 3rd and Rob O'Gara, who will probably be sufficient for a 3rd pair guy on a team that won't win 30 games next year.

    Really can't complain,
     
  20. emainvol

    emainvol Administrator

    Y'all apparently don't want much of anything for Grabner. I'm down with Grabner. That's a perfect fit
     

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