Discussion in 'Politicants' started by CardinalVol, Nov 7, 2018.
It's only going to play with his base, and maybe not even all of them.
This seems like a very likely scenario at this point.
So I have this whacky theory that Trump is losing some of his base. There's a big chunk of it that's untouchable, but he's losing ground in polls and Biden isn't making equitable gains.
So Trump loses say, 5 points nationally, and Biden only gains 1-2.
I don't think those voters are moving heavily third party, and I don't think they are going to break heavily to Biden. So that pretty much leaves staying home or not voting as the last option.
So, and I could easily be misreading this, I think some of those voters he activated in 2016 have become unactivated.
I should clarify that last point. What I mean is they are moving to the undecided column but undecided essentially means "leaning towards not voting at all"
if they could knock out some of it piece meal it would be worth it for those affected, but ya. we know it won't happen like that.
Apparently some political aides got to him last night after his earlier tone...haha.
you know, I wish people, maybe even biden, would acknowledge that he did everything one could to get vaccines as quick as possible. there is no fault on that. The fruits are coming as quickly as they can, indeed historically fast. that isn't an area of weakness, unless he undermines himself by rushing the process beyond the bounds of safety.
It's older people who Trump has lost the most support from.
"I was able to stay at home, because some black woman out there was stocking shelves.."
This could be a really fun next 4 years
Yeah, that quote was bad. lol
But how does that statement make him a bad person?
Republican partisans are going nuts over it, but I guess I just prefer the less woke, less expansive definition of racism that does not include this. Biden was trying to make a point about blue-collar workers having to work during the pandemic. He was also saying that black people often have these jobs. If people can't talk like this w/o America going nuts then we are truly a lost cause as a nation.
Not only that, but this also shows what people think about honest work. Stating someone has a lower-paying job should not automatically be seen as some fundamental insult. That's also messed up.
Was it a gaff? I guess so. But I miss the days where people could have a Michael Scott moment w/o the racist label being trotted out. Was someone mistreated? Nope. In fact, he was bragging on this hypothetical black women. Let's move along.
I dOn'T sEe CoLoR
I hear you...but a problem is that a democrat can say that and the assumption will be "they are making the statement that black people are more likely to have these jobs, and that is part of the problem," while if a republican says it "they are making a racist assumption that all black people can do is stock shelves."
I do believe that is absolutely true, and is also part of the problem.
i'm good with all of that. He's like the old uncle who may say anything at anytime. Just didn't come out right and of course, if Trump uttered the same words, you can't deny the left would be flipping out. Most republicans i know just think its amusing.
Step 1 to solving these problems: respect and root for each other's success. Let's stop putting down jobs, and maintain a baseline of dignity regarding the human condition. it will feel good once we try it.
respect and politics will never mix. Which is why i don't care for the character of people who want the power.
Nobody cares but i won't vote for either of these clowns. Can't put my name behind it
My guy is out here tweeting more than Sab right now.
don’t we already maintain a baseline of human dignity with all of our social programs
Yup. I think most people reacting to it don't actually think it was that bad. They're reacting that way because they know if Trump said something like this, the entire left would act like the sky is falling.
"all of our social programs..." No. And our social programs are intentionally sabotaged for ideological reasons.
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