COVID-19 (artist formerly known as Wuhan strain novel Corona virus)

Discussion in 'The Thunderdome' started by IP, Jan 28, 2020.

  1. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    If they self quarantine after the party, they’re doing a social good.
     
  2. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    How? How is one person being infected a social good?

    One person doesn't move the needle on immunity. One person doesn't move the needle on helping identify spread.
     
  3. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    I mean hell, if this is like any other virus that is cleared, that person can still get it again, and still spread it again, when they don't know to quarantine.
     
  4. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    If they’re having parties so they’ll be infected, that moves the community closer to having herd immunity and is a good thing. If they responsibly keep it away from high risk individuals, after the party.

    I believe that we should be doing that before flu season as fast and safely as possible.
     
  5. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    I absolutely encourage you to go get it, and then stay in a hotel. Do it for your community... but only you.
     
  6. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    Herd immunity isn't something that is walked up. It happens when vast amounts of people get immunity at damn near the same time.

    And until there is herd immunity, prior infections can continue to bat the thing around, because it can jump around.

    The safe and responsible way to build herd immunity is through vaccination.
     
  7. utvol0427

    utvol0427 Chieftain

    Anything that could potentially eliminate a Bama fan from the gene pool is a social good and you all are arguing about the Rona.
     
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  8. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    And that may never happen so the next best way is those with the lowest chance of a negative out come getting the virus while remaining away from high risk individuals.
     
  9. 2Maggitt2Quit

    2Maggitt2Quit Chieftain

    We've gotta get a lot of people sick to protect people from getting sick.

    I'm down.
     
  10. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    Same amount of people will likely be infected no matter what due to it being so prevalent now.

    We just get to control time line and risk pools now due to testing and being aware.

    Sweden probably had it correct but just failed to protect their nursing homes from workers at the start.

    Their nursing homes are full of extremely sick/elderly bed stricken individuals with works that work in numerous facilities that carried it in
     
  11. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    No, the best way is to slow the spread through social distancing and mask wearing, and general adult behavior, to bring cases as low as possible. Like every other civilized country on the planet.
     
  12. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    Sweden's entire population is the size of LA county. LA county has more coronavirus cases than Sweden, and the same number of deaths. Do you think LA is protected? If yes... really? If no, then why do you think Sweden is?
     
  13. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    Without seeing testing rates I’d say Sweden has more community spread that hasn’t been caught in low risk pools that LA doesn’t have and is working towards since it was more severely locked down
     
  14. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    This is complete speculation. There is no evidence to support this.
     
  15. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    Haven't you been talking about all the unknown positives, even going so far as to quote an article on sewage?

    So Sweden has more community spread, and Erie, PA does too... but not LA county?
     
  16. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    Not really speculation.

    They just recently ramped up testing which makes it look like cases are spiking but they're just now finding it in younger populations that wasn't being tested before.

    While icu and deaths are going down.
     
  17. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator


    I thought that was just an interesting article at how researchers are extremely looking outside the box to try to find asystematic cases.

    That's why I said it'd be crazy if true not that it was true.
     
  18. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    There are a number of researchers that thinks 20ish% infected is the sweet spot for herd immunity unless the population is extremely elderly

    That seems to be true on most cases of spread in closed environments like cruise ships, navy ships and whatnot from what I was reading.
     
  19. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    It's an interesting article, but bad science.

    What I'm getting at though is LA county is already 4x Sweden's cases.

    Most metrics for the untested, asymptomatic "true" case load is 10x the cases, yes?

    So that means LS county is at 2.4ish million, of its 10 million population. Aka, 24%.

    Likewise, for Sweden to be at similar numbers, their "true" infection rate would need to be 36x their case load, give or take.

    The math just doesn't work. LA isn't at herd immunity. Sweden isn't either. They just have a smaller population is a larger area.
     
  20. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

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