Has Butch Been Playing Vanilla Until UF?

Discussion in 'Vols Football' started by Tenacious D, Sep 12, 2017.

  1. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    Yeah, but Rocky ended up not doing that.
     
  2. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    The players are there. The entire mindset of the team seems soft, but then they go out and play street ball when they're down 2 scores and win.

    It's frustrating to watch. I think Tim Priest may have a stroke.
     
  3. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    Yes he did. In the final round.
     
  4. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    I'm fairly certain he said, "I don't need no tricks."
     
  5. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    But then he does switch. The ring announcers even say it, I believe. And he starts throwing left hook after left hook.
     
  6. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator


    It seems like a hodgepodge of different techniques that just doesn't fit together. I think butch has a huge problem of trying to out scheme and out smart the other team.

    Giving Kelly the ball 25 to 30 times a game just isn't sexy enough for him to prove how good he is at coaching.
     
  7. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    He's saving it for 2022, when the vols won't be young anymore
     
  8. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    So many modern coaches think this way, too. But it IS smart when you turn and give it to your horse every down. You win games. Saban doesn't do anything ground shaking, he just has his team run like a machine and they beat you.
     
  9. JT5

    JT5 Super Moderator

    UT Football: Keeping it vanilla for Florida only to then get our asses kicked by Florida since 1993
     
  10. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    How Saban plays coverage is basically the gold standard on secondary play now though. He's that good.

    Butch actually is really creative in how he uses the H back on offense but its really not a series that you build on. He just doesn't have an identity besides dumbass slogans and coach talk.
     
  11. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    I think this is true. But also I don't think he has a vision of a sum greater than its parts. Hence the hurry up offense when the D needs a break. Or the smattering of weird stances, exchanges, and choices he makes. There is probably a situation or reason for them, but not all together and not all the time. It's a kitchen sink approach from someone without a deeper understanding of what fundamentally leads to success on games. The butch Jones coaching philosophy is a cargo cult. His schemes are a rain dance.
     
  12. MettaWorldPeace

    MettaWorldPeace Contributor

    Nope. Just an idiot.
     
  13. cotton

    cotton Stand-up Philosopher

    Yes. Everything Butch has done has been building to this moment. It's all going to come together on Saturday, and you people will see.

    The man is a mastermind.
     
  14. lumberjack4

    lumberjack4 Chieftain

    That's the excuse every year for the shit start. Since we follow through with a shit finish every year, I think we know the validity of these claims.
     
  15. VolDad

    VolDad Super Moderator

    It makes no sense to run plays at practice speed and wait to break them out for the first time at game speed against your big SEC opponent.

    What you have seen is who we are.
     
  16. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    You could be right. Been a long time. I remember him arguing with Mickey about it.
     
  17. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    Yeah, the idea that we want to wait to actually run the offense with a first year starter at QB until we get to the swamp is just ludicrous.
     
  18. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    He did in the corner, but Mick convinced him and about 1 minute into the last round, Mick yells out "NOW!" and Rocky puts his right foot forward and starts throwing left hooks.
     
  19. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    I guess I was wrong. Begin your preparation for the apocalypse.
     
  20. zehr27

    zehr27 8th's VIP

    Not vanilla, we are just not good.
     

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