Is It Okay For People To Be Racist Privately?

Discussion in 'The Thunderdome' started by kidbourbon, Apr 28, 2014.

  1. kidbourbon

    kidbourbon Well-Known Member

    This is related to the Donald Sterling thing, but I thought I would post it here since the question goes beyond the bounds of sports.

    I think that Donald Sterling is a POS, but let's take a step back here. We're talking about trying to remove this guy as owner of a team for something he said privately. This could set a really dangerous precedent and I'm just not sure that it's right. Does privately-expressed racism really harm anybody? Shouldn't we be more concerned with Donald Sterling's anti-discrimination lawsuits? Is articulated racism really worse than denying someone housing on the basis of their race? Why, then, are people so up in arms right now when nobody seemed particularly concerned about Donald Sterling before?

    Discuss.
     
  2. JohnnyQuickkick

    JohnnyQuickkick Calcio correspondent

    i guess it's technically probably ok for him to be racist publicly, as long as he's willing to accept whatever consequences come from it....*

    it just seems like when you have these kind of beliefs privately, at some point it seems like it comes out to bite you publicly in the end. but i get where you're coming from.

    *I'm not saying racism is ok from a moral standpoint. just from a freedom of thought/speech type angle.
     
  3. lylsmorr

    lylsmorr Super Moderator

    People are allowed to be idiots. I think you're right that it sets a dangerous precedent.
     
  4. Tar Volon

    Tar Volon Me Blog @RockyTopTalk.com

    I'm assuming the anti-discrimination lawsuits weren't on TMZ. . . that's all I got. Clearly, they are worse. And I'm also wondering where exactly the line is between "piece of shit" and "piece of shit that should be kicked out of the NBA." I'm pretty sure saying racists things on the phone is not the line. Housing discrimination probably is over it.
     
  5. JayVols

    JayVols Walleye Catchin' Moderator

    Protecting idiots from their idiocy just breeds even more idiocy.

    See Volnation for proof.
     
  6. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    I would be alarmed if he were receiving punishment from the government. The free speech of the rest of the public shouldn't be infringed upon, though. If that free speech includes boycotting his games, he's damaged the NBA which also has consequences via contract which he is a part of.
     
  7. gcbvol

    gcbvol Fabulous Moderator

    People are entitled to whatever personal views they wish so long as they stay private and cause no damage. This is now a situation where the toothpaste is out of the tube, no matter whose fault.
     
  8. kidbourbon

    kidbourbon Well-Known Member


    Dem hoes ain't loyal.
     
  9. kidbourbon

    kidbourbon Well-Known Member

    I actually don't read TMZ, so I don't know, but Bill Simmons had mentioned them in columns. And Peter Keating did a number on Sterling in a piece on espn.com some years ago.
     
  10. hatvol96

    hatvol96 Well-Known Member

    Simmons was so outraged he's been a Clipper season ticket holder for years. He might be the most worthless human being on the planet. He's Clay Travis with a better publicist.
     
  11. JayVols

    JayVols Walleye Catchin' Moderator


    This. Speech is protected in the public arena, but one is not protected from the consequences that might arise in the private arena. If he were the CEO of Walmart and he had said these things, he'd be shown the door as well.
     
  12. hatvol96

    hatvol96 Well-Known Member

    Not many people paid attention to Sterling because the Clippers spent most of his tenure as owner losing 60 games a year.
     
  13. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    Can you fire the owner of, technically, a privately owned company?

    The guy's a piece of shit, no doubt, but taking his team away seems illegal. Let the fans, sponsors, players etc choose not to play/pay him.
     
  14. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    The nba shouldn't do anything. Let his team and it's lack of sponsors die on the vine and he'll be forced to sell. Forcing the situation is the epitome of nanny state .
     
  15. lylsmorr

    lylsmorr Super Moderator

  16. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    Anyone who followed the idiot is only surprised it took this long for him to do something that outraged everyone .
     
  17. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    The NBA cant do anything.
     
  18. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    Sam Walton wouldn't be shown the door. Firing an employee is one thing. Forcing someone to sell their business is quite another. The chick fil a guy is an idiot, but no one suggested the govt take his company.
     
  19. kidbourbon

    kidbourbon Well-Known Member

    I didn't say he was outraged. I said he brought it to my attention. And I read him regularly, so I have to disagree.
     
  20. hatvol96

    hatvol96 Well-Known Member

    It's happened in MLB and the NFL. Being an owner is akin to joining a club. If you do something that embarrasses the club, don't be surprised if you get kicked out.
     

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