MCB Thoughts

Discussion in 'Vols Football' started by CardinalVol, Dec 30, 2025.

  1. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Stuck in the middle

    got shoved around all year. DL just gets blocked and taken out of plays. Worst I recall in a long time
     
  2. zehr27

    zehr27 8th's VIP

    We need to go get Moffitt tomorrow. Pay whatever he wants. At least we will be strong
     
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  3. Tar Volon

    Tar Volon Me Blog @RockyTopTalk.com

    Looks like I chose well going to basketball tonight
     
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  4. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Stuck in the middle

    Vandy and illinois ran 140 total plays and we made them punt a total of 2 times.
     
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  5. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    There were so many detail items this team sucked at doing. Dumb penalties. poor tackling, missed assignments, horrific up the middle, untimely turnovers, and so on. The hallmarks of a poorly coached team. Aguilar regressed. The strength and explosiveness of the team was poor. This may be my least favorite season since '86.
     
  6. Indy

    Indy Pronoun Analyst

    It’s been clear all season that Banks was only part of the problem. At this point, it just feels like a matter of time before we are searching for a new HC again.

    One thing’s for sure - there is ZERO excuse not to have a solid QB going into next season. It’s Year 6. Go get your [uck fay]ing guy in the portal, and he had better outplay Joey this year.
     
  7. A-Smith

    A-Smith Chieftain

    Knowles will fix all of this.
     
  8. IP

    IP Resident Arguer

    Feels like this is make or break now.
     
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  9. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    Their ability to run as fast as they can into a the back of scrum at the line in unmatched. Illinois probably had 100 yards rushing just on running right and bouncing left when the whole defense crashed with no one keeping contain.
     
  10. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    Yeah those extra bowl practices clearly accomplished nothing. We got worse every week this season. May as well have just opted out of the postseason.
     
  11. VOLinDAWGland

    VOLinDAWGland Contributor

    Knowles has his work cut out for him. Good luck to him!
     
  12. JohnnyQuickkick

    JohnnyQuickkick Calcio correspondent

    This game was the season in a nutshell. About all I can say about it
     
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  13. VOLinDAWGland

    VOLinDAWGland Contributor

    QB critical TO leading to points...check
    Missed makeable FG...check
    No gap discipline...check
    No edge discipline...check
    Missed tackles...check
    Massive cushions in coverage...check
    No consistent pressure on QB...check
    No respect from refs...check
     
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  14. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    Also, do you guys realize how bad the call had to be in the 2021 MCB for Jordan Rodgers to defend UT?
     
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  15. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Stuck in the middle

    Rumor is they only have dumbbells up to 40 lbs for lifting.
     
  16. DC Vol

    DC Vol Contributor

    IMO Knowles needs to come in and clean house on the defensive side. I'm normally a big fan of Gardner but this DL performance was atrocious. They're talent-laden and have depth enough to not get pushed around at least by marginally talented OL. DL has had no real push all year, the ends can't set the edge and they are atrocious at over-pursuing - leading to massive gaps in the middle of the field that both Vandy and Illinois exploited for QB scrambles. This isn't even going into the run D aspects.

    Garner is a good recruiter but has lost it as a developer/coach. Every other D position coach isn't a good enough recruiter to offset their coaching - especially Martinez.


    S&C needs to go.


    I am not defending the OL but I think most of those sacks are on Aguilar. I think he stayed in the pocket to play hero ball and tried to make big plays that weren't there - he's accustomed to Brazell as a bail out and that wasn't there. This really showed how -- painfully average at best Aguilar is. Illinois legitimately has a horrible defense - Aguilar really struggled even with checkdowns. While some of that is on the OL I don't think it all is. I still adamantly state that if Pittman is available - Heupel needs to make a hard choice with his longtime friend and show him the door.
     
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  17. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Stuck in the middle

    I’m not sure Garners recruiting has even been good. We didn't have have an nfl DT on the field last night as far as I could tell
     
  18. DC Vol

    DC Vol Contributor

    That'd be coaching. Garner doesn't actually have that good of a track record in putting guys into the NFL - it's especially when compared to his recruiting. He's pulled in 11 5* guys according to 247 and has only put 3 guys into the 1st and another 2 in the 2nd in the last 20 years.


    He's living on a great reputation that he built pre-2005 where he put 5 guys into the 1st.
     
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  19. TennTradition

    TennTradition Super Moderator

    I didn’t pull the data but Grok and ChatGPT say about 20% of 5* recruits end up going in the first round and about 13% in the second.

    Garner has produced better than that it looks like.

    The AI guys do acknowledge DL players have a higher draft rate than the average though. So that suggests he might be putting up average development numbers.
     
  20. DC Vol

    DC Vol Contributor

    Well, TBF, I'm crediting him with James Pearce who is one of his 3 1st Rounders but JPJr wasn't a Garner recruit.


    I pulled his 247 5* DL (7 on record) recruits and:

    * 2 1st Rounders (Derrick Brown in 2020 and Alec Ogletree in 2013)
    * 2 more drafted (3rd and 5th Rounds)
    * 1 is still in college (Jordan Ross)


    So... not bad, actually.
     

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