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  1. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    Right because the argument that you'll be ok because the offense is simple and completely disregarding how the best qbs of our generation sucked as true frosh is brilliant analysis.
     
  2. JT5

    JT5 Super Moderator

    Generally speaking, I think everyone here would agree, you don't want a true freshman quarterback. Not a recipe for success...though mediocre is achievable, I'd say.
     
  3. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    I saw ainge as a true frosh. Not good. I can't believe you guys are arguing otherwise
     
  4. JohnnyQuickkick

    JohnnyQuickkick Calcio correspondent

    He had his good moments and bad. I'd say he was at least mediocre.
     
  5. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    How many vol qbs of the past 20 years would you want true frosh ainge to start over? If he's mediocre it should be at least half right?
     
  6. RockyHill

    RockyHill Loves Auburn more than Tennessee.

    Ok, let's use passer rating as our metric. It's not perfect but it will get the job done. I'm gonna toss out Hollieway and Frazier because they were option guys but their ratings would both be top 15 their freshman years. Stidham didn't play enough to reasonably count him. The rest of these guys played a lot as freshman and here's where they ranked in the country as true freshman:

    Manning-12th
    Clausen-13th
    Ainge-32nd
    RG3-28th
    Pryor-21st
    Barkley-53rd
    Leak-47th
    Bray-33rd

    I can't wait to hear how you're going to conclude that being above average does not meet the threshold of being mediocre.
     
  7. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal


    You didn't answer my question
     
  8. RockyHill

    RockyHill Loves Auburn more than Tennessee.

    Keep changing the argument.
     
  9. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal


    How many of those guys won anything of note? Coincidence?
     
  10. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    Nope. Has been the same all along.
     
  11. JT5

    JT5 Super Moderator

    Where'd Henne rank? Think he was a freshman in '03 or '04, and recall him having a good year.
     
  12. JohnnyQuickkick

    JohnnyQuickkick Calcio correspondent

    Typically amorphous droski argument. I thought we were just coming up with done names of true freshmen qbs who were mediocre. I wouldn't want a true freshman QB to start. But what does that have to do with how one performed when he did?
     
  13. RockyHill

    RockyHill Loves Auburn more than Tennessee.

    46th
     
  14. JohnnyQuickkick

    JohnnyQuickkick Calcio correspondent

    But I thought 'mediocre' was the standard
     
  15. JohnnyQuickkick

    JohnnyQuickkick Calcio correspondent

    And Ainge's team won the SEC east at least.
     
  16. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    Why wouldn't you want a mediocre qb to start?
     
  17. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    A good percentage of those teams would have won something of note with a mediocre qb.
     
  18. RockyHill

    RockyHill Loves Auburn more than Tennessee.

    Jesus.

    Droski: Rosen is the only decent true frosh QB ever.
    RHV: Here's a list of 8 QB's who were all above average as freshman. In fact, 6 of them were in the top 35.
    Droski: But did they win a Natty?
     
  19. RockyHill

    RockyHill Loves Auburn more than Tennessee.

    Mediocre and elite do not mean the same thing.
     
  20. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    You have any idea how much talent that USC Barkley team had or the ohio state prior team had?
     

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