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Hard numbers? Qb ratings in the 50s are hard numbers to prove that qbs who were on teams with 20 future NFL players were mediocre to good? For real?

 

Ok, leave Barkley out. There are still plenty of other guys that show you're wrong.

And fwiw nobody Barkley was throwing to did jackshit in the NFL.

 

This is also not true. You're really killing it tonight.

 

Ummm no. Absolutely correct

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_USC_Trojans_football_team

 

Guy had 153 yards on 63 carries while the leading rusher went for over 1,100 on 220+ carries, so.....

 

He was battling injuries. You think a backup rb gets named team captain?

 

I don't care what he was named, he essentially didn't even play that year. You used him to show that Palmer had no help when he in fact had an 1,100 yard rusher.

 

Vintage JT5

 

I'm like 95% sure this happened at UT not too long ago. I think Montario Hardesty was the guy.

 

Yep, Hardesty did it as a junior in 2008:

http://www.utsports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/101708aae.html

 

Fairly sure hardesty started against cal

 

That was one the worst teams in USC history.

 

Why haven't we seen a true frosh qb contend for a heisman if it's possible for a true frosh to be really good?

 

Negative (although we actually played UCLA in 2008, not Cal):


Play-by-Play Summary (1st quarter)
2008 Tennessee Volunteers
#18 Tennessee vs UCLA (Sep 01, 2008 at Pasadena, CA)

UCLA won the toss & will defer.UT will receive & defend the No. goal.
T 1-10 T30 UCLA ball on UCLA30.

Jimmy Rotstein kickoff 70 yards to the UT0, Dennis Rogan return 29 yards
to the UT29 (Glenn Love).
T 1-10 T29 J. Crompton pass complete to Arian Foster for 9 yards to the UT38 (Alterra
Verner).
T 2-1 T38 J. Crompton pass incomplete to Lucas Taylor.
T 3-1 T38 J. Crompton rush for loss of 1 yard to the UT37, fumble by J. Crompton
recovered by UT J. Crompton at UT37 (Team).
T 4-2 T37 Chad Cunningham punt 39 yards to the UCLA24, Terrence Austin return 5 yards
to the UCLA29 (Quintin Hancock).
--------------- 3 plays, 8 yards, TOP 01:35 ---------------

 

Ok so he started in 09. Whatever he hardly sucked

 

He started after the guy that started over him his entire career graduated, but he was elected captain while Foster was still on the team. Arian wasn't a captain. I'm sure that's an infrequent occurrence, but it done happened.

 

Really good and mediocre do not mean the same thing.

 

Well in usc's case Petros was the starter, got injured, and then was named the team captain and never really got healthy. The fact he started at all is a indictment of the offensive talent level.

 

Your argument it was that it was dumb to say that starting a true frosh means your ****ed right?