Next 5 Games

Discussion in 'Vols Football' started by Tenacious D, Sep 24, 2018.

  1. DC Vol

    DC Vol Contributor

    I'll counter.

    They had 16 drives, 6 were 3-and-outs, 1 fumble on first play and another (their first) was held at 5 plays for less than 30 yards.

    3 TDs (141 total yards of their 387 on the night) were on single-play drives that immediately followed:

    • Safety - led to a - 65 yard TD pass
    • Fumbled return to start the 2nd half - led to a - Scarlett 19 yard TD run
    • Failed onside kick - led to a - Pierce 47 yard TD run

    I'm not making excuses. But it's understandable how the coaches were fighting an uphill battle in mud getting a mentally broken team to get into the game immediately following gutpunch after gutpunch after gutpunch. It lines up with quotes from the defensive coaches just talking about the defensive players being beaten dogs.

    Two things need to happen to fix this, as it's not a physical problem on D. Our CBs aren't slow like they were around 10 years ago. Our DL is big and at least in the weightroom they're strong. They've just been horribly coached. They don't believe in themselves and they don't believe in each other. They don't believe in the coaches.

    They're broken. They have no confidence. That's just what I saw with body language before any of those big plays broke.
     
  2. lylsmorr

    lylsmorr Super Moderator

    I mean, total yards was 387 Florida to 364 Tennessee. UT had more first downs.

    Florida's scoring drives were 21 yard, 7 yards, 1 65-yard play, 66 yards, 19 yards, 75 yards, 47 yards. I have to believe the defense holds up better if they are shafted 6 times by the offense.

    Florida started drives at:

    TN 21
    TN 7
    FL 38
    TN 49
    FL 35
    FL 20
    TN 19
    FL 13
    FL 2
    FL 17
    FL 18
    FL 20
    FL 29
    TN 47
     
  3. 2Maggitt2Quit

    2Maggitt2Quit Chieftain

    Did something recently change your mind, Tenny?

    I know we were all losing our shit during the game, but it seemed like you were out on this staff.

    Edit: And I don't mean this in a "gotcha" way, just curious.
     
  4. chavisut

    chavisut Dan Mullen Fan Club President

    They whooped our ass.
     
  5. lylsmorr

    lylsmorr Super Moderator

    Dominated every aspect of the LOS
     
  6. RockyHill

    RockyHill Loves Auburn more than Tennessee.

    Yep. Past experience indicates October Auburn is a lot better than September Auburn but the issues they have aren’t easy fixes.
     
  7. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    I called for a Tennessee win there this summer...it still looks like the most likely of the three "big" games to win.

    Auburn's defensive line is winning them games right now, but Stidham looks uncomfortable running that offense
     
  8. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    Florida was up 3 scores for like 45 minutes of game time. I doubt gaining yards was a big priority for them.
     
  9. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    They didn't have many yards to gain.
     
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  10. lylsmorr

    lylsmorr Super Moderator

    Fortunately for Auburn, UT's offensive line is losing the games for UT.
     
  11. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    If you throw out all our bad plays, it really wasn’t that bad. Too bad that adds up to deleting about 3.5 quarters of football from the game.
     
  12. BigOrangeBeech

    BigOrangeBeech Poster of the Month, July 2014 and recruiting guy!

    Frank's was 8 of 18 for 3 TDs.

    I'll give him the one back shoulder throw, but other than that he sux, and we handed him an easy game.
     
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  13. chavisut

    chavisut Dan Mullen Fan Club President

    Deep down we all probably knew it was over after they blew us up for that safety.
     
  14. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    Swap Florida for UT and TN for Vandy and I bet you just described a lot of games from 95-04.
     
  15. RockyHill

    RockyHill Loves Auburn more than Tennessee.

    There’s something off with him. They can’t “fix” the OL on the sense that they will be able to bully people like they have in prior years, but I wouldn’t rule out them improving enough for the offense to come back to life.

    I think it might be close on the scoreboard but I just don’t see how Tennessee would be able to move the ball on them.
     
    Last edited: Sep 24, 2018
  16. Savage Orange

    Savage Orange I need ammunition, not a ride. -V Zelensky.

    Auburn will win by three scores if only because I work with the smuggest Auburn fan on the planet and I’ll have to listen to his smug, condescending b.s. until next time we play them. It’ll be even worse when we go to Columbia. Another guy there is an insufferable [ock cay] graduate. Life sucks right now as a Vol fan, that’s for sure...
     
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  17. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    I don't believe that we are as bad as we looked on Saturday.

    I think that Saturday's catastrophic lapses overshadowed a great deal of improvement, and which bodes well for us, going forward.

    I think this staff is realizing that you need the older guys to have any chance of winning now, and are taking action on that front.

    I think that teams are going to see the WV and UF scores and assume that TN is still that team, and they are going to be surprised when we aren't.

    I think some teams are going to completely overlook us, and find themselves looking up midway through the 3rd and realizing its a ballgame.

    Better, Tennessee is going to do the same, too, and take out a lot of frustration on that / those poor teams.

    I think that eventually, statistically speaking, that the good and bad luck evens out - and that Tennessee emptied the barrel on their bad luck Saturday.

    I think that this staff is smart and hungry enough to find a win.

    I think that some team who have no business losing to us are going to find a way to do so, and that we'll find a way to let them.
     
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  18. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    This feels like a lot of hope and wishes.
     
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  19. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    I don't think you could play worse than Tennessee played Saturday night, offensively, if you tried.
     
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  20. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Okay. We can get our ass whooped just as well with 4 turnovers as 6.

    Losing by 2 touchdowns to UGA vs by 30 doesn't do much to me. The record matters most.
     

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