Notre Dame Cathedral on fire.

They’ll rebuild. All is well.

 

300 million euros already pledged.

 

Maybe not litter, but I'd say most of the graffiti in Rome is from Italians. However, I was there just a month ago and didn't find either litter or graffiti to be very bad. Probably better than the average for a city that size.

 

rome is paradise compared to naples or sorrento

 

yeah i don't remember it being overly bad either, but i was there a decade ago

 

The litter was horrible early on Saturday and Sunday mornings. They had it cleaned up by noon though.

Maybe they cleaned up the graffiti since last year, but, for instance those walls along the edges of the Tiber were just covered. Same with lots of the walls on the smaller streets near the Pantheon area. They may do like an annual cleanup or something. Somebody was explaining that most of the graffiti was sports related and not gang related.

 

Yeah I've heard Naples classified as "gritty."

 

i'd just call it a dump. the poverty level in the south of italy is staggering. felt like a 3rd world country at times. i went to tuscany and rome and then the south and the contrast was amazing.

 

It goes back a long way

 

I blame Spartacus. He camped down in southern Italy for two years.

 

I think historically it has been poorer and a political football of rival European powers.

 

Couple of photos of the interior out on the interwebs today. Looks like a lot of the main altar is basically undamaged. Tons of burnt wood all over the place, but the destruction looks minimal.

 

Now, put sprinklers in.

 

Survives 2 World Wars and catches fire in 2019 during repair. Just unbelievable. Though April 15th is a bad day in history

 

I am sure they will.

 

then the sprinklers will go off accidentally and ruin a bunch of shit

 

They’ll probably set up some sort of automatically descending barriers to cover any at risk paintings or frescos.

 

These will probably knock over candles and create an even bigger inferno.

 

I know people's panties are in a wad, but I laughed. It's a terrible incident to a historical building, but its OK to laugh sometimes.