Obama Endorses France's Macron

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  1. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    I'm not sure what effect this will have, if any, to be honest.

    But, it does strike me as somewhat odd, coming from the man who spent a significant amount of time in decrying even the possibility of international meddling in our elections.

    How is this any different than that? How is what Obama is doing here, and openly, any different than what he accused Putin of doing in our election, Brexit, and now the French elections?

    Link: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...s-macron-in-last-minute-election-intervention
     
  2. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    I don't think endorsing is meddling. Meddling would be actively working within the country towards getting someone elected, either illicitly or legally.

    And as a private citizen, he can say anything he wants to at this point.

    IMHO.
     
  3. TennTradition

    TennTradition Super Moderator

    Not really worth much discussion. Agree with NA. Pretty clear.
     
  4. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    So, because he made it official, it isn't meddling?

    How then to explain his comments during Brexit, and as POTUS?
     
  5. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    Again, endorsement is not meddling. Putin can come out and say "I hope Trump gets elected, I think it would be good for the world and for the USA. And for me."

    But hacking, systemically spreading false information with intent to affect the election, etc is different. Particularly if, and it isn't proven we know, that it was being done with the help or OK of the Trump Candidacy.

    IMHO.

    And once again, Obama is now a private citizen. You, TennyD, can officially endorse Pepe LePew for France's election if you wish.
     
  6. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    1. I've still not seen the proof that Russia did anything, or what effect it had, if any.
    2. What about Obama's meddling in Brexit, as POTUS?
    3. I have yet to announce my endorsement of any candidate in the French election.
     
  7. ben4vols

    ben4vols Contributor

    Not only is he meddling in another countries election, but didn't he spy on the Le Pen campaign? Then again, who did Obama not spy on? Maybe Lying Susan Rice will get a subpoena and we can find out.
     
  8. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    if putin had come out and said that the media would have gone crazy
     
  9. gcbvol

    gcbvol Fabulous Moderator

    Absolutely. It's still not meddling.
     
  10. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    His comments on Brexit, as POTUS?

    Et tu, GCB? Et tu?
     
  11. gcbvol

    gcbvol Fabulous Moderator

    Brexit was a different situation. I think it was inappropriate and understand why folks might consider it meddling.
     
  12. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    i agree
     
  13. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    man has there ever been a bigger overreaction over nothing than brexit.
     
  14. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    That's all I'm asking for - a simple acknowledgment of the hypocrisy.

    I yield to the valid and oppositional arguments on Obama's endorsement of a French candidate, and abandon the claim.
     
  15. TennTradition

    TennTradition Super Moderator

    Crazy because you have to ask what value a Putin endorsement has.
     
  16. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    Y2K?
     
  17. IP

    IP "You don't know what it is like in our universe."

    When did Putin endorse trump?
     
  18. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    good call
     
  19. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    I argue there was a big to do about nothing there because of all the work done in the 90's to fix all of the coding.
     
  20. 615 Vol

    615 Vol Chieftain

    Hypocrisy and politicians go together like Tennessee Football and shitty coaching. I do think it affects the right more because they're joined at the hip with Jesus.
     

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