Obama's tax return

Discussion in 'The Thunderdome' started by CardinalVol, Apr 13, 2012.

  1. JayVols

    JayVols Walleye Catchin' Moderator


    Well........ I think we should put a tax on our taxes.......
     
  2. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Everyone's money gets taxed even after it was earned all the time...
     
  3. LawVol13

    LawVol13 Chieftain

    I don't think Obama's doing anything wrong either. It's perfectly legal. However, it's very hypocritical of him to slam Romney and the people who take advantage of loopholes claiming it's so unfair to the middle class while he's doing the exact same thing.
     
  4. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    He didn't pay a lower rate. He paid taxes on the money when he initially earned it and is now being taxed again on the gains he made from reinvesting that money.
     
  5. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    ... And it shouldn't be.
     
  6. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    For the record - I don't think Obama, Romney or even Buffet has done anything wrong. If I were any of their CPA I would do what they are doing. I just get tired of of wealthy continually being accused of exploiting loopholes and everything else short of saying outright fraud when it's not the truth.
     
  7. JayVols

    JayVols Walleye Catchin' Moderator

    I invested money already earned on my education and am taxed on my salary.... I could go with not taxing principle, but the return is new money earned. It should be taxed like a salary, imo.
     
  8. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    correct and they all get taxed at the same rate (romney and you). romney just happens to have a shitload more of it than the average person.
     
  9. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    And if anybody cares, I'm really sick of tax returns and am doing as little as possible today.
     
  10. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    the intent is to encourage investment. raise taxes on investments to the maximum tax rate and a lot of people will undoubtably chose more tax efficient investments like real estate or municipal bonds. and for some reason no one seems to be willing to elminate all the tax loopholes that exist in real estate. all we hear about is marginal tax rates and capital gain rates. the real screwjob to the american public taxwise is real estate.
     
  11. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    I think the argument is the wealthy have a disproportionate amount of control on how the system is set up and changed over time, and are thus generally able to watch after their interests moreso than the common person. It isn't necessarily personal, but rather systemic with the way our congress and political system works.
     
  12. JayVols

    JayVols Walleye Catchin' Moderator

    I understand that. What puzzles me is to me it seems that money is created and vanishes into thin air when investing in certain areas. I could learn the system if I had an interest in doing so. I find it laborious and boring.
     
  13. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Romney and I have the same tax rate?
     
  14. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    If you want to encourage investors to actually invest, no.
     
  15. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    what do you mean vanishes into thin air? and i find your job laborious and boring too! <pouting>
     
  16. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    on capital gains on investments yes (i'm willing to bet his ordinary income is taxed at the max). that is unless your tax rate is below 20%.
     
  17. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    It doesn't vanish, the value just goes up or down like with anything.

    Baseball cards use to bring big money. Now people don't want them, the value goes down. If I paid 100 dollars for one card, and now can only get 60 for it. The money didn't just vanish, but the value went down. This happens with everything stocks, real estate, and NASCAR memorabilia.
     
  18. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    I bet mine is less than 20 % by some margin.
     
  19. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    ha ha. fair enough.
     
  20. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    Considering you are in school my guess is Romney's is higher.

    :p
     

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