Soccer Discussion

What the [uck fay] was that? This is embarrassing.

 

Mexico throw? What?

 

Hand ball? Ref has been awful.

 

3 minutes of stoppage with 6 subs, a goal, and 5 fake injuries

 

And not even 3, blew it with our possession. GG ref.

 

I want VAR. I'm tired of "I didn't see it." should have been a red on the guy who jumped on Altidore. so many hand balls. and the stoppage time stuff is garbage. clearly timewasting is always worth it

 

Yeah can’t leave it up to the refs. You know they’re screwing you if they can

 

This [uck fay]ing sucks. So many missed chances and the second half was a shit show. Oh, and the Mexican team was missing about 5 key players, too. Too many losers on this national team, people accustomed now to losing and there needs to be a cleansing which may or may not happen, considering the federation and coach aren't exactly inspiring of confidence.

 

Could we have a fan vote where we can maybe just play with 10 men permanently instead of ever seeing Bradley again?

 

The real question:

Are we going to waste Pulisic’s entire prime without doing anything remotely impressive?

 

For the next 4-5 years, I'd say yes. Not necessarily his entire prime, but yeah.

 

I missed the Guardado choke. About as obvious if a red card as you can get.

 

God, I take losses to Mexico in competitive matches so poorly. I can't even be happy about the Women's triumph for more than a few seconds before I get bitter thinking about last night's result. The worst part is I don't expect much from US Soccer going forward.

 

Would be funny if the Mexican team was invited to the White House

 

Probably but it's happened to Leo Messi, too and there are champions littering Argentinas squad. Pulisic will never reach that level, and he'll never have a squad that good around him

 

As long as we keep calling up rejects because they perform ok in MLS, then yeah.

 

Ugh, I'll be happy when this whole episode is over and I don't have to hear about this issue anymore. All these people commenting and few know how they are actually paid. Some salient, to me, points:

1. I despise the fact the trashing of the men's team is a bargaining tactic. The men have been rather supportive of the ladies in the past.
2. The ladies are negotiating a new deal, as any other athlete might, to get the most amount of money for themselves.
3. They have different deals. The men are paid by appearance and the women get a salary.
4. The women, as a result of being paid salaries, have a smaller pool of players because of the guaranteed money. See #2.
5. The men get the bulk of their money from their clubs. The women get a good amount of their money from national team selection.
6. The women collectively bargained for their current deal in 2017 and includes things specific to their situation, like maternity leave. My guess is, after they signed the deal, the men failed to qualify for Russia 2018, losing a bunch of money, and they sensed an opportunity.
7. Advertisers and other types of income aren't earmarked for the men's or women's team, just for U.S. Soccer.

So, I'm not sure how you quantify "equal pay". My guess is that they could offer them the exact men's deal and it would be rejected by the women.

 

Yeah the entire argument is about as honest as the general gender pay gap in America.

 

I agree with this post literally word for word. And the women should be glad for number 7.

Honestly, I wasn't even aware until a few years ago that players got paid at all for representing the national team.