The Final Bow

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  1. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Went to the White House...Again

  2. lylsmorr

    lylsmorr Super Moderator

    - https://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/abs/10.1176/ajp.2007.164.7.1044

    - https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/wps.20460 - French scientists
    "The use of antidepressants to prevent suicidal behaviour is supported by several facts. First, most pharmacoepidemiologic studies, which are more representative of patient populations than RCTs, show a protective effect of antidepressant use with respect to suicide1. Second, although observational studies suggest an increased risk of suicidal ideation or suicide among young people receiving antidepressants, antidepressants actually seem to reduce the risk when confounding by indication is accounted for3. Third, post‐mortem studies with toxicological detection of antidepressants indicate that suicides in depressed patients occur more often among those who are not taking an antidepressant1."

    - https://search.proquest.com/openvie...622d89e3e6/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=2041886

    - https://www.nimh.nih.gov/about/directors/thomas-insel/blog/2011/antidepressants-a-complicated-picture.shtml
    "Perhaps the best evidence for efficacy comes from patients who have been treated successfully with antidepressants and are switched in a blinded fashion to placebo. In a meta-analysis of 31 withdrawal studies among more than 4,000 patients, Geddes and colleagues found that 41 percent of patients who were switched to placebo relapsed, compared to 18 percent who remained on an antidepressant.xiii These studies provide compelling evidence that antidepressants are effective for some people."

    - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0087089/
    The various antidepressants have been compared in many studies. Overall, the commonly used tricyclic antidepressants SSRIs and SSNRIs performed equally well. Studies of adults with moderate or severe depression showed:

    • Without antidepressants: About 20 to 40 out of 100 people who took a placebo noticed an improvement in their symptoms within six to eight weeks.
    • With antidepressants: About 40 to 60 out of 100 people who took an antidepressant noticed an improvement in their symptoms within six to eight weeks.
    Studies involving adults show that taking commonly used antidepressants such as TCAs, SSRIs or SSNRIs lowers the risk of relapses, but cannot completely prevent them.

    • Without preventive treatment: About 50 out of 100 people who took a placebo had a relapse within one to two years.
    • With preventive treatment: About 23 out of 100 people who took an antidepressant had a relapse within one to two years.
    You're welcome to take naturalnews dot com's word without any sourcing, but I'll roll with the research.​
     
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  3. GahLee

    GahLee Director of Conspiracy Theories, 8th Maxim

    Just want to say you guys shit all over the this thread. RIP Anthony Bourdain.
     
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  4. JT5

    JT5 Super Moderator

    My grandma.

    The finality is numbing. Not really sure how to process. But held her hand for a few hours yesterday, told her how much I loved her and appreciated her. She passed shorty after I left her room.

    Thankful that I got that moment and that closure. We’re often not that fortunate.
     
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  5. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    Sorry for your lost, jt.
     
  6. chavisut

    chavisut Dan Mullen Fan Club President

    Sorry jt
     
  7. JT5

    JT5 Super Moderator

    Thanks, brotha.

    In most ways, she passed a few years ago. Dementia set in rapidly. She didn’t know where she was, or what was going on. Couldn’t carry a conversation for more than 10 seconds, and even those were unintelligible. Body and vitals were surprisingly strong, but brain was shot.

    Hard to be too broken up about, because that was no way to live. Happy for her, but miss her.
     
  8. JT5

    JT5 Super Moderator

    Thanks, brotha.
     
  9. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    I'm sorry, JT
     
  10. JT5

    JT5 Super Moderator

    Thanks bud.
     
  11. TennTradition

    TennTradition Super Moderator

    No we are not. Very sorry for your loss -glad you had that time.
     
  12. kmf600

    kmf600 Energy vampire

    Sorry JT
     
  13. gcbvol

    gcbvol Fabulous Moderator

    Very sorry for your loss, JT, but glad you got the time with her before she passed. Was similar for me with my dad and I've always been thankful for those moments to express love and appreciation. My thoughts are with you and your family.
     
  14. JT5

    JT5 Super Moderator

    Thanks, boys.
     
  15. VolDad

    VolDad Super Moderator

    Prayers for you and your family JT
     
  16. Volgrad98

    Volgrad98 Contributor

    Sorry for your loss JT.
     
  17. NYY

    NYY Super Moderator

    Praying for you JT. Been there and it sucks. Getting to say goodbye helps with some closure.
     
  18. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    Matt “Guitar” Murphy.

    “Let’s boogie” was a classic line in Blues Brothers and I use it frequently.
     
  19. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    Damn
     
  20. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

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