POLITICS Theresa May out as PM.

they are a small country that's been highly educated for generations. it's like trying to say we should go replicate what marin county is doing to the rest of the country.

 

My parents didn't go to college. I have a PhD. We can do better.

 

Upward mobility in those other countries is no better than ours. It’s worse in most cases.

 

But you lived in a two parent house that while not perfect cared for you growing up.

I was the same. None of my grandparents graduated high school. My parents were the first in their family to graduate high school but are factory workers that never went to college.

I was the first to get a college degree. My wife has a doctorate degree so hopefully my kids take more after her than me since I’m a dumbass.

The largest issue is parents and that’s hard to overcome no matter how much we spend. We already spend almost more than any developed country in the world.

 

Actually, I think it's the opposite. Upward mobility in the US is less than most of those countries.

https://www.economist.com/graphic-d...overestimate-social-mobility-in-their-country

 

Are they using the same ladder across countries in their evaluations.

Because most of those countries on the list have fewer runs on the ladder to be considered a top earner than here.

 

You don't have to answer this, but who paid for your PhD

 

Have we talked about May's probable replacement and one of the lead Brexiteers being called to court for making so shit up during the leave campaign?

 

We aren't even trying here.

It's fine to disagree with socialism as an ideology, but we basically just have people screaming "big government" or "socialism" or "freedom" to discredit all attempts to improve society in any way.

 

Nope. Those studies have been discredited

https://www.nber.org/papers/w19844

Calculating three alternative measures of mobility, the researchers concluded that the United States has one of the highest rates of mobility in the world, ranking fourth, just behind Finland, Denmark, and Norway. Moreover, the findings showed no decline in the rate of social mobility among children born in the U.S. over the last 40 years.

 

I don’t agree these things are improving society. If socialism is a better way of doing things why does France, Italy, Spain, and Greece have far higher unemployment, much lower middle class wages, and lower social mobility?

 

Exactly. We have so many rich and it’s hard for the super poor to become Bill gates, but that’s hard everywhere.

 

I did, through working at the school and other jobs simultaneously. I couldn't make enough to do that in undergrad and masters at UT, so I am still paying on those loans.

edit: if you were wondering if my parents helped, not one red cent since I was 17. I went home in the summers a couple of times, but that's the extent of it.

now that my younger siblings are doing the college thing or not, my parents suddenly realize I hatched and crawled off like a lizard, asking for and requiring nothing.

 

It was a legit question, couldn't remember if you already said.

 

I’m just glad I got out when I did. It was still expensive but it’s gone crazy since about right then

 

We don't have to adopt anything. But there are some things, like with health care, where it feels like we just have blinders on. And sooner or later, failing to improve education (and I admit I don't know of a great solution) is going to be a real problem.

 

Healthcare is a major problem, but there is no easy solution. I’d love to see a real cost for Medicare because I know my clients save thousands going on it. The question is how much we supplementing. He do still have by far the best higher education system in the world. All is not lost. The change in k-12 needs to come from the parents.

 

Spending isn’t the issue you education. We spend more per student than every developed country already. We just get a bad roi for a lot of reasons most be parents and cultural

 

There is way too much money spent on administrators in California

 

I doubt that it's just in California