VolNation Idiots

Discussion in 'Vols Football' started by zehr27, Sep 13, 2015.

  1. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    lol, more than a few did though
     
  2. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Went to the White House...Again

    The GOAT, Al Wilson, had 25 tackles his freshman year and mainly played STs. There are many more examples of growth and development over a 3-4 year span than there are examples of NFL ready all sec starters as true freshman.
     
  3. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    Pfft, Jamal Lewis didn't even know how to pick up a blitz when he came to Knoxville.
     
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  4. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Went to the White House...Again

    Travis Stepbens and Cheese turned into NFL draft picks and had a combined 50 yards their freshman year.
     
  5. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Oh, so we are confusing "not playing freshmen" with "development." Got it.
     
  6. InVolNerable

    InVolNerable Fark Master Flex

    More like a Ssmiff.
     
  7. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Went to the White House...Again

    No we arent confusing anything, you are. Were the 2 travis's NFL ready as freshmen, or did they develop to nfl draft picks. The answer is obvious as they got bigger, stronger and better over their careers. If they were NFL ready as freshmen, they would have played more.
     
  8. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    If they didn't start as freshmen over his last 8 years, they were either sitting behind NFL guys or they weren't any good
     
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  9. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    Travis Stephens didn't have much of an NFL career, but Henry was. He was behind Jamal Lewis
     
  10. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    If they didn't play their first years much, what are you comparing them to?
     
  11. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Went to the White House...Again

    You guys are the ones who said Fulmers players came in NFL ready and didnt improve. NFL ready players dont sit behind upperclassmen who havent improved during their careers.
     
  12. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    unless they all were nfl players... which they were
     
  13. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Went to the White House...Again

    I dont believe you understand the football development and growth that occurs for most players from babyfaced freshman at 18 or 19 to a 22/23 year old man.
     
  14. JT5

    JT5 Super Moderator

    There were a few on the defensive side in the early-to-mid 2000s that I thought developed and improved along the way.

    Turk McBride, Parys Haralson, Omar Gaither...at least in my revisionist history.

    But the program was visibly beginning its slide...and for every boom, we had a couple of busts.
     
  15. warhammer

    warhammer Chieftain

    Just no, this is not a good memory.
     
  16. A-Smith

    A-Smith Chieftain

    Tons of players were much better as Sophomores than Freshmen. Jamal Lewis was the exception not the rule.

    Fulmer was mostly good.

    Pruitt really sucks.
     
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  17. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    Meh, players got better. You don't have as many draft picks as we did during that time period if players were relying on talent alone. Some didn't (or were overhyped coming in), but many did.
     
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  18. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    Yeah fulmer was pretty damn good till he got lazy later in his career and just let the recruiting services do the heavy lifting
     
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  19. Poppa T

    Poppa T Vol Geezer

    Did I log on to VN by mistake? Or is this the thread where you are allowed to pretend like you are arguing about VN-level shit? Not judging, just asking.
     
  20. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Went to the White House...Again

    Discussing Fulmer and players improving is VN level? Then bring something else, besides complaining about content. Seems a fair deal
     

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