What Should Both Parties Have Learned in 2016?

Discussion in 'The Thunderdome' started by Tenacious D, Dec 27, 2016.

  1. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Yes, her "I'm not trump" show was idiotic.
     
  2. y2korth

    y2korth Contributor

    Like the mystics and statistics say it will?
     
  3. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    Clinton ran as horrific a campaign as I've ever seen.
     
  4. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    I don't agree with him on anything politically, but I don't mind him. He'll run in 20 or 24.
     
  5. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Unfortunately, the nature of the game means you'll hate him by the time he is running.
     
  6. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    How to lose 101, and folks were saying that in August. She was campaigning like it was a forgone conclusion. Her strategy was one of arrogance. Campaigning on Arizona the week of, to avoid the optics of winning without the pop vote is a Dewey/Truman moment.
     
  7. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    It was amazingly tone deaf. It reminded me of a year long Butch Jones press conference.
     
  8. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    Some thoughts on this thread -

    1. While I theoretically agree with the sentiment of no term limits, I am 100% pro term limits because it provides safeguards against the system. Society needs safeguards. I propose 12 years in the Legislature, divy them up as you wish.

    2. I like Ryan. Label me as you wish, but I like him a lot. Always have.

    3. Why does Pelosi, Warren, McConnell not step aside? Because they have power. And to be an effective politician (in any sense of the word) in the American system, you have to be ambitious and power-motivated. And power gained is not easily given up by 99% of the American public.

    4. Yes, Hillary ran one of the worst campaigns in recent memory.

    5. No, I do not read the Tenny/Uni dissertation debates but do chuckle when it takes me 15 seconds to scroll through one of them.
     
  9. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    I'm gonna label you a cheesehead.
     
  10. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    #gopackgo

    I think I finally pooped all the cheese curds out from my trip to Green Bay and declared a ceasefire on my cardivascular system the day after Christmas.
     
  11. kmf600

    kmf600 Energy vampire

  12. bigpapavol

    bigpapavol Chieftain

    His will dwarf all the rest - combined.
     
  13. bigpapavol

    bigpapavol Chieftain

  14. kmf600

    kmf600 Energy vampire

    To be fair, he's a "privileged liberal", so that's probably the least douchie he'll ever get.
     
  15. bigpapavol

    bigpapavol Chieftain

    Why the word privileged?
     
  16. kmf600

    kmf600 Energy vampire

    That how he describes himself
     
  17. bigpapavol

    bigpapavol Chieftain

    I don't see the difference in the unprivileged.
     
  18. bostonvol

    bostonvol Chieftain

  19. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    Vox would know.......
     
  20. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Uh oh, you're triggered.
     

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