POLITICS Roll v Wade II

of the 3 abortions I know of, 2 were nonviable never gonna be sort of abortions. I don't know what the proportion is, but it is not gonna be small.

 

and the other was rape, for what it's worth. and that person is pro life. I can't explain, just reporting facts.

 

You cant do a straight comparison there. Too many unbalanced factors between America and 3rd world countries. Whether it be prenatal care, living conditions, culture, you name it.

 

He wasn't arguing for "post birth abortion". His argument was misrepresented and there's no such thing as a "post birth abortion", anyway.

 

In the video, Republican Delegate Todd Gilbert asks Tran whether her legislation would let a pregnant woman who is dilating request an abortion if a doctor certified that the woman's mental health was impaired.

'My bill would allow that, yes,' Tran said

I'm not making this up. Northam just described how the process would work, which is disgusting.

 

What about Ireland pre-abortion legalization? Poland has really strict abortion laws. There are countries with better health care than the US in terms of availability and outcomes but higher stillborn an infant mortality numbers.

Hell, Alabama has the highest infant mortality in the nation. Access to abortion surely plays a role.

 

No, he didn't. He was describing when patents would decide to resuscitate a baby who wasn't viable. Tran handled the ridiculous question poorly, mostly because it was an absurd, non-realistic scenario of a politician looking for a "gotcha!" moment. They were looking to characterize this as some kind of bill to legitimize infanticide, so they've attempted to construe the commemts of Tran and Northern as supporting it. But, it's horseshit, expecially trying to present Northern's as such. That's why IP, correctly, noted the political hatchet job this has been.

 

I wouldn't consider those abortions

 

I can understand why she would

 

Slippery slope.

 

Bet. The market would control the insurance portion of this, and the rest would be left to the legislators and courts.

None of this moves the needle.

 

How do you sort it out when two rights conflict?

 

Also ignores WIC, food stamps, and Medicare for pregnancy for those that qualify.

 

"for those who qualify"

 

You might not, but these state laws do.

 

I think IP is right in that it requires going down a rabbit hole of a whole host of other tangents.

 

Since we're supposed to go full retard in this thread, the slippery slope actually leads to the gubmint telling you who and when you can screw cause socialism.

 

That sounds like totalitarianism, not socialism.

 

Sounds like mainstream religions up until recently.

 

socialism doesn't mean anything at all anymore. It is just the catch-all for bogeymen. Socialism! Look out!