23-24 Season

Discussion in 'Keith Hatfield Memorial Vols Hoops' started by Unimane, Jul 2, 2023.

  1. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    It really is set up to where if we win most of these, we're a 1. If we don't, we aren't (barring chaos).
     
  2. JohnnyQuickkick

    JohnnyQuickkick Calcio correspondent

    I’m fully prepared to get a 2 after going 4-0 because Reasons.
     
  3. lumberjack4

    lumberjack4 Chieftain

    Just remember last year we had a good case for a 1 seed and got a 4...
     
  4. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Went to the White House...Again

    Zz played a part in that imo.
     
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  5. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    And it ended up [uck fay]ing Duke, so maybe it won't happen again.
     
  6. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    Not getting a #1 seed in 2019 soured me on ever getting the #1 seed from the committee.
     
  7. JohnnyQuickkick

    JohnnyQuickkick Calcio correspondent

    They will cite the head to head with UNC and say NET wasn’t a factor, and then for another controversial choice they’ll cite NET and say H2H wasn’t a factor
     
  8. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    So damn true.
     
  9. gcbvol

    gcbvol Fabulous Moderator

    The committee isn't doing UT any favors this year for certain.
     
  10. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    To be fair, this year the committee has kept us at a pretty solid #2 slot, which is justified.
     
  11. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    If we win out, they'll have to decide whether anything matters or not.
     
  12. JohnnyQuickkick

    JohnnyQuickkick Calcio correspondent

    At this point it’s all just for funsies anyway
     
  13. Indy

    Indy Pronoun Analyst

    Yeah, 4-0 over the next 2 weeks will be hard to overlook for a 1 seed.

    So, naturally, conference tournaments will suddenly became a major factor.
     
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  14. Indy

    Indy Pronoun Analyst

    The NET ranking system is honestly pretty [uck fay]ing stupid. Losing to the #50 team in the country at a neutral site is a way worse loss than losing to the #1 team in the country on the road. But both show up the exact same on paper: 0-1 in quad 1.

    Just stupid. So I don't have a lot of patience for comparing one team's 7-4 record in quad 1 vs another team's 4-5 record in quad 1 (especially when one team has losses in Q3 and/or Q4). What were the actual L's? What were the actual W's?
     
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  15. JT5

    JT5 Super Moderator

    We’re not going 4-0 down this stretch either way. I’m just hoping we avoid injuries and go into the tourney fully healthy as a 2-seed.
     
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  16. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    I know what you're doing, and I get it.
     
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  17. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    I think the Quad stuff is really only useful for screening out folks dropping games to Q3 and 4, as you are kind of pointing out.
     
  18. Indy

    Indy Pronoun Analyst

    Arizona Quad 1 wins:

    Neu #6 Alabama
    @ #10 Duke
    Vs #22 Wisconsin
    Neu #24 Michigan State
    @ #34 Colorado
    @ #54 Utah
    @ #63 Oregon

    Arizona Quad 1 Losses:

    Neu #2 Purdue
    Neu #37 Florida Atlantic
    @ #36 Washington St

    Avg Quad 1 Opponent Rank: 29

    Tennessee Quad 1 wins:

    Vs #6 Alabama
    Vs #17 Illinois
    @ #19 UK
    @ #22 Wisconsin

    Tennessee Quad 1 Losses:

    Neu #2 Purdue
    @ #9 North Carolina
    Neu #14 Kansas
    @ #28 Mississippi St
    @ #58 Texas A&M

    Avg Quad 1 Opponent Rank: 19

    So our Q1 opponents are ranked 10 places better, on average. Of course their record is better - it's common [uck fay]ing sense. It's the difference between Kentucky (#19) and Utah St (#29).
     
  19. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Went to the White House...Again

    Why wouldn’t Florida W count? Surely they are ranked higher than 63 and it was on the road
     
  20. Indy

    Indy Pronoun Analyst

    Also, can we talk about how Bradley is ranked #65 in NET, while USCjr is #48? The [uck fay]?

    Bradley is 3-5 in Q1-Q2. USCjr is 9-3.

    Again, a loss against [uck fay]ing BRADLEY on the road is considered a Q1 loss, but a loss against USCjr at home is considered a Q2 loss.

    Make it make sense.
     
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