Butch's Recruiting Flops

Discussion in 'Vols Football' started by TDVol1989, Nov 30, 2016.

  1. TDVol1989

    TDVol1989 Always Be Menstruating

  2. TDVol1989

    TDVol1989 Always Be Menstruating

  3. cotton

    cotton Stand-up Philosopher

  4. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

  5. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    I think this is a better demonstration of inability to build up a foundation, than it is of a shaky foundation.

    They aren't recruiting busts--they are victims of bad coaching.
     
  6. smokysbark

    smokysbark Chieftain

    This. They had the stars for a reason.
     
  7. TDVol1989

    TDVol1989 Always Be Menstruating

    I won't necessarily argue that point, however, just consider that there are a certain number of highly ranked recruits each year that do not pan out for some reason. What if we are more successful signing them as other teams may back off the close at the end? You can get caught chasing stars and overlook other things. Don't take this as an argument so much as a confirmation that it DEFINITELY is poor coaching, but it may include some less than accurate evaluations as well. Either way, it is an indictment of Butch.
     
  8. cotton

    cotton Stand-up Philosopher

    Thanks.

    I think it's pretty telling that:

    1) Despite his "great" recruiting, in the '13, '14, adn '15 classes, Butch had 10 top 100 recruits. Bama had 35. Florida had 12 in the middle of a coaching change. This would indicate to me that, although we may be ranked just behind the best in the country, there is a hell of a lot more distance between us and them than Rivals Rankings alone would suggest.

    2) While we are turning 3/10 top 100 players into stars, Flarda and Bama Auburn are turning 6 out of every 10 into stars. We suck at evaluating or developing or both.
     
  9. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    His classes were top 10 because of sheer quantity, imho.
     
  10. BigOrangeBeech

    BigOrangeBeech Poster of the Month, July 2014 and recruiting guy!

    For the most part.
     
  11. Volnbama

    Volnbama Contributor

    The recruiting services only rank the top 20 commits for each team so quantity doesn't play that big of a part
     
  12. Volguy1971

    Volguy1971 Sith Lord

    Add the fact that the legacy recruits makes the classes look better as well. How would he have done without the legacies?
     
  13. A-Smith

    A-Smith Chieftain

    No. 2014 and 2015 were stacked.
     
  14. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    They were really good, especially 2014
     
  15. RockyHill

    RockyHill Loves Auburn more than Tennessee.

    It's a shame they won't accomplish diddly at Tennessee.
     
  16. chavisut

    chavisut Dan Mullen Fan Club President

    Average star rating was basically in line with rankings so it wasn't really about quantity.
     
  17. Volnbama

    Volnbama Contributor

    He lost seven 4 stars from the 2014 class within 18 months of signing them.
     

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