The effect of LSU

Discussion in 'Vols Football' started by TimRoo, Nov 29, 2012.

  1. TimRoo

    TimRoo Member

    I had been thinking all week about how, if Fulmer had only won one of the two SEC championship games, he'd probably still be our coach (or about to be fired/coaxed into retirement now instead of a few years back). The first of course, was in 2001, where a win would've put us in the national championship game. The second in 2007, a year before he was fired. More than likely he survives 2008 if we had been defending SEC champs.

    Just now I was reading a recap of the Dooley era on RockyTopTalk, and got to the part on the LSU game in 2010. If Dooley had won THAT game, Tennessee probably doesn't lay an egg the next week at Georgia, and might go on to an 8-5 or 9-4 season. Maybe the Vols build on that in 2011, maybe not, but such a season probably would've bought him another year.

    I guess the moral of the story is, you HAVE to beat LSU. Funny how they're not even huge rivals yet they've had a HUGE impact on our program.
     
  2. bigpapavol

    bigpapavol Chieftain

    Please no more talk of extra years for Fulmer. To boot, that bastard gave us Hamilton.
     
  3. Indy

    Indy Pronoun Analyst

    It's that damn hat.
     
  4. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    I can't see any way we'd have beaten UGA in 2010. They played like crap against them in 2011, too. They were just a lot better.
     
  5. TimRoo

    TimRoo Member

    Just looked it up. Georgia finished that season 6-7 themselves, and were on a four game losing streak when they whipped us.
     
  6. RevBubbaFlavel

    RevBubbaFlavel Contributor

    I my have been late to the party, but the Georgia game in 2011 was the game that convinced me Dooley sucked ass.
     
  7. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    I was in the same boat. I had my doubts prior, but was willing to give him a chance. I'd had enough after that garbage.
     
  8. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    It's really amazing how many coaches "almost" did something. On the other end, you guys did have a little bit of luck in 98.
     
  9. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    We used it all up for going on 15 years, but it was worth it.
     
  10. Brick Top

    Brick Top Member

    On the flip side there's Gene Chizik, an unproven coach who DID win the close ones in 2010 (that Auburn team edged Miss St, Clemson, Carolina, Kentucky, LSU, Bama, and Oregon), won the big prize, and even it didn't help him.

    Sometimes it's more than just W's and L's. Most everyone knew that Chizik caught lightning in a bottle with the Malzahn hire and the Cam, ummm... "acquisition". Dooley's own incompetence was so glaring this season that I'm not sure an extra win or two from 2010 (LSU and/or UNC, maybe) could have staved off his dismissal this season.
     
  11. cotton

    cotton Stand-up Philosopher

    That's true, but it was earned. The program won 10 games or more 9 times in 16 years and never won less than 8. They finished in the top 5 four times, in the top 10 eight times, and the top 15 13 times. They kept putting championship contenders on the field and eventually, the breaks went the right way.

    I don't think that's really the moral, although it is an interesting write-up. Take a look at the historical, embarrassing losing streaks we have against Bama, and Florida, and Auburn. LSU has had a good program recently, and they have beaten us in some key games, but every good program has been beating us in key games. The moral of the story is that if you play good football and win, you don't really have to look for the straw that broke the camel's back.
     
  12. TimRoo

    TimRoo Member

    Fair enough. Certainly if any of the previous coaches had owned Bama and Florida over that stretch they'd probably still be here. Just struck me as odd how often LSU games could've been the turning point in the program's last ten years or so.
     

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