England voting to leave EU.... Thoughts?

I think it signals a new age of nationalism and an acceptance that the last 50 years or so of socialistic government has been a disaster.... That's me though... What say YOU, 8th'ers??

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-32810887

 

they were never really all the way in in the first place, but there is no question that their downfall as a country is directly related to the rise of the labour party

 

If I'm not mistaken, they kept the Pound over the Euro, right?

 

Yes.

 

What happens if England leaves but the rest of the UK stays? This could get interesting!

 

That's not a possibility as far as I know. I think referendum is unified.

 

Mel Gibson did all that work for nothing

 

I lulz'd!!

 

I don't know any more than this - Germany's Angela Merkel can basically dictate what Britain does on a great many and important matters, and their fate is intertwined with hers.

And that'd be plenty for me to GTFO, and pronto.

 

I don't pretend to know the inner workings of the EU, but as a casual observer, I don't get how/why Merkel has so much power. Is it because the German economy is the EU's largest economy, if it even is?

Not surprising though. Seems like every time Germany gets the entire band together, they start taking shit over.

 

Many of the policies are not from Merkel, but actually from the founding of the EU and were proposed by Britain. The narrative that Britain doesn't have enough power in the EU because of policies x, y, and z is undercut because x, y, and z policies were often Britain's proposals. It's a conservative narrative, much like the "Labour party broke everything" thing droski said. Large scale immigration to Britain isn't just the EU's doing anymore than it's Texas' fault when illegal immigrants get into Georgia. The EU allows for the free movement of EU citizens, not undocumented ones. And much of the immigration is coming from India.

 

Sometimes narratives are also true

 

But rarely. England is voting because they don't want Merkel to be their financial decision maker. This was the problem with the idea from the beginning.

 

For any nation state to give up, forego, hinder, subdue or allow its sovereignty to be substantively subjected to the collective will of other nation states, or its representative body is, on it's face, so foolish as to threaten the bounds of even madness, itself.

It will never happen to the United States, by inch or by yard, without the most violently sincere opposition, and failing it's prevention, such would face an equally vociferous and perpetually escalating opposition as was possible, relenting only at its complete discontinuation and the full, complete and final punishment of those treasonous fools who orchestrated that effort or even made mention of it's suggestion.

That is, for at least as long as a single breath remained in my body.

 

That's the crazy thing about the EU. For most of the 20 century Germany tried to take power over all of Europe, just for Europe to hand it over to them in the 21st century

 

Sharia Law is alive and well in the UK

 

Why Johnny Jingo, you look like somebody walked on your mama's grave. I'm in.

 

someone has to pay for all the social programs and the germans are the only banker left that will loan money

 

I argue it already happened in the United States at its founding.

And the world is shrinking at an alarming rate, with trade and commerce more open than ever before. Ideas changing sides, etc. It won't be long before individual countries will just be borders on a map and nothing more. And I am not afraid of that, personally. You already give up authority to a guy living 10 miles from you (county government) who has to yield authority to a guy living 400 miles away (state), who yet has to yield to a guy living 1200 miles away (National).

I don't think it will be some revolution or sudden change, but will happen so slowly, so naturally, that eventually no one will notice it having happened. You read that and you see sinister, I read it and it is just the natural evolution of the the world.

IMHO of course.

 

Agreed. Those without the natural resources to prop up the crap have to borrow it from somewhere.