IT: Chapter 2 (Spoilers)

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  1. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    I’ve seen several terrible movies of late, particularly in the horror genre, and this is easily the worst.

    The first reboot was a fresh re-make, balancing a mix of eeriness and jump scares, and weaving a genuinely good (albeit frequently muddled) story through a cast of likable characters.

    It: Chapter 2 is just a jumbled mess of ham-handed jump scares and phobia-teasing fright tropes, predictably interspersed through a storyline that is equal parts terrible and nonsensical.

    Troped Fears:
    Clowns, claustrophobia, needles, buried alive, drowning, disease, spiders, narrow-minded hilljacks....check, check, check, check, etc.

    In this installment, we learn that Pennywise is an alien - yes, an alien - and that he was originally and unsuccessfully fought by Native Americans. And as an alien, he is accompanied by three death orbs of light, and which serve some purpose that the movie never really bothers to explain. You know that they are important, but not why. They’re the perfect example of how the story has become completely lost, almost from the opening scene.

    Also, in this installment, Pennywise needs to use others to help do his bidding, such as when he sends a demon-like character to give a knife to a psychopath in a mental hospital....and then yet another to chauffeur the same man away, as he escapes the asylum. You see, this murderous alien who can assume any shape and read the thoughts of others needs the help of some Walking Dead-like zombies and a schizophrenic human.

    Stephen King makes an appearance in the film, but worse, so do his politics, as the film takes a few circuitous and largely ineffective twists into issues that any social justice warrior will find pleasing, if not curiously placed and poorly executed - the police are crooked and bad, gay guys are beaten in the streets, two characters are secretly gay, etc. Even more disappointing is that there wasn’t a single reference to Trump, the ultimate baddie, but I guess Stephen counts movie tickets sold in Birmingham and Boston, all the same.

    Not even the addition of Bill Hader, who adds a few moments of genuine and good levity, can save this swill.

    I’m notoriously prone to allowing scary movies to freak me out and linger in my mind, but this movie just isn’t, at all. I could re-watch this movie on Halloween night, alone, locked in an abandoned and isolated cabin in the woods, and while only fearing that I’d fall asleep or die of boredom. It’s a cartoonish and poorly-planned cash-grab, intended to milk the final drop of blood from the first re-boot.

    This was my first movie experience at Regal’s new 4DX theatre, where the seats move, wind blows, water splashes, etc. I honestly liked the 4DX experience, but not even those machinations could save this shit show.

    Story: 1/10
    It’s equal parts wandering and terrible.

    Characters: 3/10
    Hader is the only memorable character

    Cinematography: 8/10
    It’s well-done, and likely overly so.

    Length: 1/10
    Running time is 2:50, and it’d be too long at even half that.

    Scary Score: 2/10
    It’s got good jump scares, but the rest is not only not scary, but just laughably dumb.

    Overall Score: 3/10
    And this is being generous, while squinting and still trying to give Hader some love. Without him, this movie is easily a 1/10.
     
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  2. kmf600

    kmf600 Energy vampire

    My 13 year old daughter, who loves horror movies, and absolutely love loved the first It, hated this movie.
     
  3. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    Wasn't Pennywise always an alien?

    Note: I am not a big King fan and loathe horror movies of all types, but am just going by something i read years ago.
     
  4. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    I can't think of a single remake of a horror movie that was more horrific than the original.
     
  5. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    The first IT came close, proving that it’s at least possible, but this second one is a significant step in the opposite direction.

    I was genuinely horrified by the all-female reboot of Ghostbusters, but it was due to the terrible cast, so I don’t count that one.
     
  6. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    I never saw the all-female Ghostbusters, but that franchise is definitely not horror.

    I watched "Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2" last night, starring Dennis Hopper. Wow, was that bad and not horrifying.
     
  7. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Went to the White House...Again

    all female ghostbusters made me giggle more than the original, which I consider one of the most overrated movies of all time. I don't think I've ever laughed at anything Dan Akroyd said or did.
     
  8. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    The Blues Brothers is one of the best movies ever made.
     
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  9. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    Yes, the all female re-make was overrated.

    That’s what I assume you meant.

    Because the original Ghostbusters came out in the 80’s, and in my youth, and hence, is magical and cannot be bad. So I know you aren’t talking about the original, and particularly in such a sharp tone.
     
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  10. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Went to the White House...Again

    Oh no, he slimed me. Oh no, you didnt think about the staypuff marshmallow man did you?
    Awful cinema. Gotta let it go.
     
  11. JohnnyQuickkick

    JohnnyQuickkick Calcio correspondent

    This is the worst take in the history of takes.
     
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  12. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Went to the White House...Again

    Sheep
     
  13. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Went to the White House...Again

  14. JohnnyQuickkick

    JohnnyQuickkick Calcio correspondent

    It’s not even worth continuing this conversation
     
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  15. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    I'm stunned.
     
  16. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    Super Bass o matic 76 is one of the 25 funniest sketches in SNL history.
     
  17. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    For Limp:

     
  18. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    definitely better than the first. not sure about more horrific

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  19. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    agreed on better. first was more horrific. second/reshoot worst of the three, while army of darkness was the best.
     
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  20. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Went to the White House...Again

    Norris in Akroyd fashion for me, I watched for 2 minutes and lost interest before that. Just not my gig
     
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