POLITICS 2020 Election

Discussion in 'Politicants' started by CardinalVol, Nov 7, 2018.

  1. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    You know he was on the board of a holding company right? Not involved with operations, but on the board, of a holding company.

    And he has worked for holding companies in the past, but even that experience isn't necessary, just his general investment background is sufficient to sit in the board of a holding company, as all the board is concerned with is the holding company's investment position.

    He was skilled enough. He got it because of his father, but he was still skilled enough.
     
  2. IP

    IP Advanced Pruitt Apologetics Bot

    But we should consider instead voting for the guy whose kids are not legally allowed to run any charity in NY anymore because they were caught stealing from it.
     
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  3. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    It wouldn't shock me if Hunter was dirty. His lifestyle heads that way naturally.

    But that doesn't mean he has any influence on his father, anymore than Jr and the other have on their dad.

    Which is why they don't sit where Jared and Ivanka sit.
     
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  4. IP

    IP Advanced Pruitt Apologetics Bot

    Yes, that is the point that maybe isn't obvious to some: look where his kids were and one is positioned relative to the father. Look where the other's kids are positioned. Now tell me which is more influencing.
     
  5. zehr27

    zehr27 8th's VIP

    Wasn't one of the emails that was confirmed an email with some damaging information? I haven't really kept up with it as it seems about as credible as the Trump pee tapes that got a FISA warrant and started Russia Gate.
     
  6. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    One would be against a candidate, the other against the candidate's son. So obviously the follow up would differ, ie: FISA warrant, etc.
     
  7. zehr27

    zehr27 8th's VIP

    This implicates Biden as well from what I read.
     
  8. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    Fox News allegedly has confirmed from the Chinese firm emails that Joe was supposed to get a cut of 10% shares off the top in their deals with Hunter.

    now if that is true or not I don’t know. But if they can actually flesh that out it will be interesting.
     
  9. zehr27

    zehr27 8th's VIP

    I hope they learned their lesson from the Steele dossier and flush this out quickly.
     
  10. IP

    IP Advanced Pruitt Apologetics Bot

    The reliable Chinese sources.
     
  11. TennTradition

    TennTradition Super Moderator

    Obviously the story about the laptop is made up. There are way too many problems with it. Rudy came up with a way to launder Russian intelligence into something he could roll out through friendly press.

    But - questions of what in the material is real and what is fabricated by the Russians are fair.

    Biden is on the record as saying he wasn’t involved in his son’s business dealings. Is taking the meeting - if it happened - being involved? You’ve left yourself room that it isn’t a massive issue, but it can be a bad look. Especially if dropped as a bombshell and we know how Trump likes a movie production.

    The China stuff I’m not as clear on. Not exactly sure what’s really there. Obviously if Joe actually cut a deal, while VP, to take 10% of his son’s payments from China .... then that’s not good. But I still feel a long way from seeing that’s what happened.

    If it clearly happened, I think this gets released earlier. My guess is it doesn’t hold up to scrutiny so you have to drop it in the 11th hour to do damage.
     
  12. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    That's funny. Who gives 10% shares, for anything?

    Should have made it 1%, at least believable.
     
  13. emainvol

    emainvol Administrator

    So, let me get this straight.

    Giuliani, some dipshit "computer repair shop" owner, and the NY Post have hard drives belonging to Hunter Biden

    Said hard drives contain child pornography

    Rather than send this to the FBI and leak the child porn story, they leak a story about how Hunter set up a meeting between the VP and folks from th Ukraine

    Meanwhile Ron Johnson gets the files and I guess watches the child porn?

    And we are finding out about this now, rather than whenever it happened. And the FBI is not investigating Hunter Biden for the possession and distribution of child porn.

    That all sound about right?

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  14. emainvol

    emainvol Administrator

    They didn't

    Assuming we are talking about Ron Johnson and his ilk

    It's getting harder and harder to see this as anything but a coordinated GOP propoganda campaign when a sitting United States senator is on a major news network pushing a story about child pornography.
     
  15. zehr27

    zehr27 8th's VIP

    It's Trump pee tapes 2.0. Its unbelievable how easy it is to get people to believe BS stories.
     
  16. emainvol

    emainvol Administrator

    You mean like sitting US Senator Ron Johnson?

    How many sitting US senators in the democratic party were talking about pee tapes?

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  17. zehr27

    zehr27 8th's VIP

    Jeff Merkley
     
  18. emainvol

    emainvol Administrator

    It's a fair comparison on the surface, but I don't think that Merkley's comments to Buzzfeed a couple years ago are quite on the level of Ron Johnson opening up an investigation into Hunter Biden, finding nothing and then latching onto essentially a QAnon level conspiracy theory.

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  19. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    Probably better than the WHO
     
  20. emainvol

    emainvol Administrator

    And on top of everything, if there's a there there why did they sit on it until now instead of a month ago before people started voting?

    Not only is it clearly a bullshit smear campaign, but it's a poorly planned and operated bullshit smear campaign.

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