Can Someone Tell Me Why Bitcoin is so Valuable?

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  1. Indy

    Indy Does not get lucky

    Seems like something that won’t last, but what the hell do I know? Tell me what I’m missing.
     
  2. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    I think mostly for spending on the dark web
     
  3. lumberjack4

    lumberjack4 Chieftain

    The raw value is based on speculation and hope. The Block chain is the real deal and has/will change change the way we manage transactions for decades. Ethereum, to me, is one of the groups realizing the true potential of block chain technology.

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  4. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    Blockchain is distributed computing, where parts of the whole are stored all over?
     
  5. Indy

    Indy Does not get lucky

    Are you able to say this in English?
     
  6. lumberjack4

    lumberjack4 Chieftain

    Let me try. Basically the Block Chain is a public ledger that stores all data transfers (be it financial or information) between all parties on a network. This means that every node on a network knows and validates every transaction ever performed on that network. This guarantees trust on a network. A bad actor can't make a fraudulent transaction on the network because all data is public and every node validates the entire history of transactions. Someone can't claim that you sent them money, because it's easy to refute that claim since the ledger contains every transaction ever committed.

    Bitcoin harnesses block chain technology for Financial transactions. It's value is largely speculative (as it is for all cryptocurrencies). The benefit is that all transactions are guaranteed and funds settle in a matter of minutes.

    Ethereum is a group that uses block chain technology to generate tokens. They monetize the tokens to allow users to pay for secure transactions. This transactions can be monetary or secure digital communications. It's a glorified secure Federation Service.

    It's all really cool stuff. I used to mine bitcoins about 7 years ago, unfortunately I sold my stash long before the meteoric rise.

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  7. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    What is mining bitcoins? I always thought that meant stealing them.
     
  8. lumberjack4

    lumberjack4 Chieftain

    Network nodes solve mathematical problems requiring brute force (think something analagous to discovering mersenne prime numbers). When a node has "solved" the problem he is given a block of coins from the network. This process is called mining for coins, it is also the processed used to validate the public ledger. The problems are created based on the total computing power of the network. The process is designed so that each problem is answered approximately every 8 minutes. The more computing power on the network, the harder the problems are to solve. I don't pretend to understand much of the math theory behind the process of coin creation. Mining will continue until 21 million bitcoins have been created, at that point no more coins will be entered into circulation.

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  9. chef65

    chef65 Contributor

    Just be thankful you didn't get black lung.
     
  10. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    That is very interesting.

    If all transactions are on the public ledger, how does it become a dark web currency? Seems like if you bust one (I'm going to go for a bad analogy) spider, you could pick up all his flies too, just by following the transactions.
     
  11. lumberjack4

    lumberjack4 Chieftain

    Transactions are anonymous. The ledger essentially specifies the wallet ID of the two parties. Obviously to ship illegal products at some point the seller needs an address, but that information is not within the ledger itself. Anyone can create a wallet, and people can create multiple wallets. However to move money from one wallet to another is a transaction, which is stored forever. BTC is anonymous, but it's not untraceable, just really inconvenient. The FBI was still able to bust Silk Road despite the fact it only accepted BTC. Hard cash will always be harder to trace than anything digital, it's just not as convenient.

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  12. lylsmorr

    lylsmorr Super Moderator

    I think I'm more confused on what BitCoin is now than I was before opening the thread.
     
  13. JudgmentVol

    JudgmentVol Chieftain

    Just listened to a Freakonimcs podcast on it this morning. The title of the episode is "Why everyone who doesn't hate bitcoin loves it."

    Very good breakdown of its value and its multi faceted functions.
     
  14. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    Yeah, me too
     
  15. GahLee

    GahLee Director of Conspiracy Theories, 8th Maxim

    Yes
     
  16. Indy

    Indy Does not get lucky

    Yup.
     
  17. 10SEvols

    10SEvols Member

     
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  18. bigpapavol

    bigpapavol Chieftain

    We apparently need some bitcoin focus up in here.
     
  19. reVOLt

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  20. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    A successful mining yields 12.5 bitcoins, worth about $57,000?
     

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