Evan, Cam, Trevor & AK

Discussion in 'Vols Football' started by zero-sum, Oct 29, 2015.

  1. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    And, at the risk of inciting the oft-alleged "group think" mindset that pervades this site, as I understand it - but our special teams have been superb under Butch Jones, by and large.

    I don't know how you explain Medley this season, but I think his struggles are in his head, and can't be blamed on Jones & Co.

    Credit where it's due, but only where and when it's deserved. And on ST, it is warranted, IMO.
     
  2. Oldvol75

    Oldvol75 Super Bigfoot Guru Mod

    Any time the word "group" is used around here, I get nervous.
     
  3. Indy

    Indy Pronoun Analyst

    He's not on scholarship? That's criminal.
     
  4. utvol0427

    utvol0427 Chieftain

    Absolutely. I can't remember a time where we were this strong on special teams. We've got guys that can house one at any time, coverage is solid, and we have an NFL caliber punter. Medley has a helluva a leg, he's just got to get his head right.
     
  5. NYY

    NYY Super Moderator

    I agree. Which now makes this a dang groupthink tank. Awesome.

    Botch really does stress special teams. Hence Maggitt going down on a ST play. Other than his handling of Medley, of course.
     
  6. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    Everything botch does sucks! FAHR BOTCH! RARRRR!

    Actually, the special teams sans Medley have been fantastic. I think trotting Medley out for that third kick Saturday was a horrible decision, but we all know what I think of Lyle's in game decision making.
     
  7. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    One thing you could do to manage the FG situation is to let one of the other two guys have the closer ones and make Medley your long range specialist. He's got way more of a leg, just inconsistent.
     
  8. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    And he's starting ahead of one fifth year transfer, and a frosh who is on scholly.

    I believe they'll find him a scholly, soon.
     
  9. cotton

    cotton Stand-up Philosopher

    Your really need to look at gross and net, as neither tells the story by itself. If you've got a guy near the top in both, you've got a good one.
     
  10. NYY

    NYY Super Moderator

    You only send him out for a 3rd kick if you're going to either scrap him or if that rights the ship. He misses there, he's done mentally.
     
  11. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    Wow, "group think" in praise of Jones?

    We have become that which we hate. Time to go to the house, IMO.
     
  12. Oldvol75

    Oldvol75 Super Bigfoot Guru Mod

    So what we are really saying is that we all like 1/3 of Butch. I have my orders.
     
  13. bigpapavol

    bigpapavol Chieftain

    the problem with net is that it relies on the quality of the players trying to stop the returner, so isn't a level measure. Inside 20 is about opportunities as well.

    I want the guy that kicks it highest and longest most often. He's the guy that can flip the field or get you out of a backed up jam. He's the most valuable punter almost all the time.
     
  14. chavisut

    chavisut Dan Mullen Fan Club President

    Last year he was incredibly accurate inside forty. I think it is mostly mental right now.
     
  15. chavisut

    chavisut Dan Mullen Fan Club President

    IIRC he's been put on scholly already.
     
  16. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    Some of that is Butch's recruiting too. We're not sending the white guy from Ensworth to fair catch punts anymore, there's actually athletes on the roster.
     
  17. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    I forgot about that.
     
  18. cotton

    cotton Stand-up Philosopher

    I don't disagree, it's just hard to measure "highest" from numbers alone. Those 20 (or 25 now? I don't remember,) yard dings on touchbacks hurt the net, also.

    Maybe it's better to say that you should look at gross and then check it against net to make sure line drives and touchbacks aren't giving you an inflated number.
     
  19. bigpapavol

    bigpapavol Chieftain

    By my eyeball, we have a helluva punter. It's like when I know which guy can carry the hazard by the way he hits his 3 iron.
     
  20. cotton

    cotton Stand-up Philosopher

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