I'll say this for Dooley...

Discussion in 'Vols Football' started by volfanjo, Oct 23, 2011.

  1. volfanjo

    volfanjo Chieftain

    The fake punt pass -- with Palardy of all people -- was a gutsy call. On the road against a hated rival in a tight game and you call it and execute it. Kudos. It extended the drive and led to 3 points.

    I think Dooley knows what it takes to win in the league. We are getting bigger at every position and trying to get better at the units that are musts -- offensive and defensive line. Other than Malik Jackson and Da'Rick Rogers, no one on our team would play meaningful snaps for LSU or Bama. I think we have our gripes with the play-calling and certain units that are justified. But the big picture strategy is sound. And it bodes well for our future, whether Dooley is here to see it or not.
     
  2. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    Maggitt and AJ are future stars. That makes very happy
     
  3. vollygirl

    vollygirl Guest

    That was the second time Palardy dazzled me. He sure has let him down otherwise. Not sure I've ever been as disappointed with the potential I thought somebody was bringing.
     
  4. Snakeonia

    Snakeonia Active Member

    jo, do u think that dooley is the guy(given time) to get TN back to the way they were in the 90's
     
  5. volfanjo

    volfanjo Chieftain

    I think in the 90s the SEC had two really good coaches: Fulmer and Spurrier. Fulmer raided South Carolina, Georgia, and to a small extent Alabama for talent during those years. I'm afraid between Miles, Saban, Richt, and even Chizik given their ability to recruit, it is going to be difficult to ever see that kind of dominance again no matter who is the coach. Do I think Dooley could win the East? Yes. Win an SEC championship? Maybe. Be dominant? Don't think so.
     
  6. cotton

    cotton Super Moderator

    Is any playcall in the first half of a game where you are a 31 point underdog really gutsy?
     
  7. volfanbill

    volfanbill Active Member

    honestly, at that point it didn't matter that we were a 31 point underdog. Our D was playing well and Bama's O looked flat. We had all kinds of momentum to lose had that failed. By it being successful, we kept momentum and kept Bama on their heels for a little while longer.
     
  8. cotton

    cotton Super Moderator

    I didn't say I didn't like the call, but I have a hard time giving a lot of credit for guts in a nothing to lose situation.
     
  9. volfanbill

    volfanbill Active Member

    still disagree. the backlash had the play failed would have been monumental.
     
  10. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    Haven't seen any backlash over the failed fourth and inches in his own territory later in the game.
     
  11. cotton

    cotton Super Moderator

    I think the backlash would have amounted to Priest saying, "Well, it didn't work, but he had to take his shot when he saw it."
     
  12. XXROCKYTOPXX

    XXROCKYTOPXX Chieftain

    To this point, even though we don't have the wins, I like what Dooley has done. I like the guys he is bringing in and think we have a good staff. Its hard to say whether or not he's the guy simply because of what he's working with. Once he's got another class or two under his belt we should have a better idea of whether or not he's the guy. I just hope our fan base is patient enough to give him a chance.
     
  13. cotton

    cotton Super Moderator

    My concern is that the fan base is going to be overly patient. Dooley is going to have the core of his team in their Jr. season next year. He will still have some holes, particularly on defense, but the OLine, WR, and QB positions should be set. LB will be more experienced with talent, and kicking game, DL, and secondary problems will have had time to be addressed if not completely solved.

    If we are still getting blown out by everybody that is good at football, I'm going to start a mob.
     
  14. cotton

    cotton Super Moderator

    My concern is that the fan base is going to be overly patient. Dooley is going to have the core of his team in their Jr. season next year. He will still have some holes, particularly on defense, but the OLine, WR, and QB positions should be set. LB will be more experienced with talent, and kicking game, DL, and secondary problems will have had time to be addressed if not completely solved.

    If we are still getting blown out by everybody that is good at football, I'm going to start a mob.
     
  15. TRUVOL

    TRUVOL Member

    We should be a solid team next year.
     
  16. volfanjo

    volfanjo Chieftain

    Next year's schedule is our most reasonable yet under Dooley with a team that is close to having depth at every position. Dec. 1st 2012 we will have a pretty good idea if he is the guy.
     
  17. Smowkee

    Smowkee Member

    It's been hard to recruit given the circumstances with other teams in the conference having great success the past few years and Tennessee being so down, and facing possible sanctions. I think Dooley has done a good job so far. But I'm sure if we don't show some major improvement next year, the torches will be coming out in force.
     
  18. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    As they probably should. When he was hired I, essentially expected two years of crap, or the two years to be a time of preparation. People are [itch bay]ing about all kinds of stuff regarding "bad coaching", but freshmen and sophomores create teams that look poorly coached. Year 3 is when you should start to see some of the delivery on that potential and year 4 is when they need to be finished with the rebuilding and competing, then year 5 should be championship level expectations.

    So, I'll never know why people are [itch bay]ing about this year. We all knew we'd struggle, then we lost a ton of our best players and a portion of the fan base somehow expected these young guys to magically morph into upperclassmen. They remind me of children constantly asking "Are we there, yet?!?" No, we're not because, just like in August, the same guys are still freshmen and sophomores.
     
  19. VOLinDAWGland

    VOLinDAWGland Contributor

    That is my expectation as well. There are at least two types of fans that are constantly [itch bay]ing:

    1. The full on mouth breathing, drooling retards that have no idea about whats going on other than we're not winning enough. They can't work through the simple logic that their demand for firing Dooley will just result in more of the same, not withstanding the fact that no coach of any stature would take the job at this point. These constitute the majority of posters on Volnation and GovolsXtra comments.

    2. Those that are normally reasonable and informed but are just frustrated as hell. I feel your pain.

    The hole that Fulmer and then Kiffin put this program in is not an easy one to climb out of.
     
  20. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    I wasn't expecting championships in year 2, or anything, but the lack of development of the OL and DBs is disturbing. If Marsalis Teague has improved, it's minimal. Brent Brewer hadn't played football in years, so you'd expect a big leap forward for his second season, but he might actually have gotten worse. The OL hasn't gotten any better, but now that the right-handed James Stone experiment is over, that might change. The little things you look for as harbingers of good times in 2012 and 2013 aren't really there except with Bray and the wide receivers. I'm also expecting a big leap forward for the linebackers next year. But I don't really know why I should be expecting anything much from the OL or DBs next year.
     
    Last edited: Oct 24, 2011

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