Line woes: Coaching or Players/Depth?

Discussion in 'Vols Football' started by lylsmorr, Nov 3, 2018.

  1. lylsmorr

    lylsmorr Super Moderator

    No there are things Helton could do a lot better. The rub routes and screen game against SC were great. Why UT hasn't done that more, I have no idea.
     
  2. chavisut

    chavisut Dan Mullen Fan Club President

    Oh goodness let's not bring that crap here.
     
  3. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    It works when they make an effort to. The offense wasn't bad the 2nd half of UGA, wasn't bad against Auburn and really wasn't an issue against USCe. Now, they get to a cupcake, they continue to run it for 0 to 1 yards and get the game over with.

    It's not necessarily something I would do, but I get why they want to just get this game out of the way.
     
  4. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    And there has been a learning curve as the season went on. It's gotten better since the UF game. The UK game will see if that continues
     
  5. Poppa T

    Poppa T Vol Geezer

    Given the state of the team, I don't think we can afford to go into ANY game "just to get it out of the way."

    If one of the objectives is to get this team practicing and playing at the level that Pruitt keeps espousing, then this would seem to send a conflicting message.

    It makes me sad to say this, but I just don't think we are good enough to have the luxury to do that.
     
  6. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    It's like pre season NFL game to the staff. Look at the defensive line rotation, a lot of young guys played immediately.

    Like I said, I would rather they not, but they did.
     
  7. Poppa T

    Poppa T Vol Geezer

    I get that point of view. And maybe that is the case. I really don't know.

    I have not seen very many preseason NFL games where the "1st" string QB played the entire game. I do think Jennings and Chandler may have been dinged up and I can see the rationale for saving them.

    The possibilty that we may still be treating games 3/4 into the season as preseason is not very comforting.
     
  8. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    I don't like it, but there's 4 or 5 defensive linemen that can play at the SEC level. They are going to get them as much rest as possible. There's only three legit playmakers on this offense, IMO, in Chandler, Jennings and Palmer. Two of the three rested. You assume your QB would get better at reading defenses through reps, but it doesn't appear to be the case, but hey they're trying. DWA getting some catches hopefully gets him some confidence too.

    I don't think the staff wants to treat the games this way, but are hamstrung by a lack of depth and at this point, the health of the team.
     
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  9. warhammer

    warhammer Chieftain

    I'd hazard a guess that there are two main reasons you saw JG all the way in the "preseason" game as well.
    1. It stayed close.
    2. Avoid controversy
     
  10. Poppa T

    Poppa T Vol Geezer

    It just bums me out that this is where we are, still.

    I'll confess, I've never been 100% sold on JG. Mad props for his toughness. Just not convinced that he has the mental grasp to be successful. Hard to tell with the OL he has though.

    I'm of the opinion that KC was brought in strictly as an insurance policy in case JG got injured and can not play. I get that.

    It just sucks. "Dammit, Bobby!"
     
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  11. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    What was so vanilla about the gameplan?
     
  12. zehr27

    zehr27 8th's VIP

    I am right there with you.
     
  13. lumberjack4

    lumberjack4 Chieftain

    I don't get this reasoning. It's week 9, there's no hiding the playbook at this point in the season. I can be convinced of this if you're playing a couple of patsies in week 1 and week 2. If I believed we have a head coach hiding the play book in week 9, I'd be calling for his ass to be fired yesterday. Clearly our team sucks donkey [penis] which is the primary reason for the shit show this weekend.
     
  14. BigOrangeBeech

    BigOrangeBeech Poster of the Month, July 2014 and recruiting guy!

    Fahr em all!
     
  15. BigOrangeBeech

    BigOrangeBeech Poster of the Month, July 2014 and recruiting guy!

    About right. Not sure how I'll feel if we lose the UK game.
     
  16. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Went to the White House...Again

    2 nfl players in our current 2 deep.
    My intramural team had 1.
     
  17. cotton

    cotton Stand-up Philosopher

    You don't think Calloway belongs here?
     
  18. lylsmorr

    lylsmorr Super Moderator

    If you can do minimal prep for Charlotte and prepare for a huge game for your bowl resume (UK), wouldn't you do it?
     
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  19. Poppa T

    Poppa T Vol Geezer

    According to Pruitt, that is not what we did ...

    DID YOU HOLD BACK OR LIMIT WHAT YOU WANTED TO SHOW IN THIS GAME?
    “No. That’s not how we coach, that’s not how we prepare.”

    ON WHY THE TEAM RESHUFFLED THE OFFENSIVE LINE IN THE GAME:
    “Well, when you look up at the scoreboard and you got two yards rushing, at some point in time, you might as well make some changes.”
     
  20. lylsmorr

    lylsmorr Super Moderator

    I didn't say show. I said prep.
     

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