Net Neutrality

Discussion in 'Politicants' started by emainvol, May 19, 2018.

  1. emainvol

    emainvol Administrator

    Can someone explain to me how the same logic about the will of the people that Republicans applied to their arguments against ACA doesn't apply to Net Neutrality?

    Net Neutrality is polling at about 80% in favor

    The worst ACA ever did was about 50% against.

    What gives? Seems like a pretty shitty representative democracy when the party in power ignores the overwhelming majority (and this applies to either side of the aisle) to instead shill for the big telecoms.

    Also, I find it pretty funny that noted [unt cay] Ajit Pai is complaining that the Dems narrowly pushed NN rules through the Senate when NN received the exact number of Yes votes that he did
     
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  2. warhammer

    warhammer Chieftain

    Well, feel free to vote out the party in power. That's how it works. Then another party rewards their donors for a while until they are voted out.
     
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  3. emainvol

    emainvol Administrator

    Believe me, I try.

    Our system is [uck fay]ed
     
  4. lumberjack4

    lumberjack4 Chieftain

    I don't agree that all internet traffic should be treated equal. As such, I am against the current definition of net neutrality. Communications between self driving cars, remote medical procedures, medical monitoring devices, critical infrastructure monitoring are all more important than my youtube videos, word with friends, and app downloads and should be prioritized over them. I also, don't believe that Comcast should be able to throttle someone's Netflix stream to encourage them to use Hulu. I think there is common sense middle ground that can be reached even if there is no desire by either side to do so.
     
  5. warhammer

    warhammer Chieftain

    Let the self driving cars manufacturers solve their own problems.
     
  6. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    I don't know if this is a joke or not, but we'll get better processes when "necessary tech" has to compete for resources with "unnecessary tech."
     
  7. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    You make a good point.
     
  8. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    Yeah, you give someone 'guaranteed' anything and they will never try to bring it under the guaranteed slot.

    Also, some enterprising person will find a way to spoof the necessary tech and stream their porn through it.
     
  9. warhammer

    warhammer Chieftain

    No joke. Self driving cars are completely unnecessary.
     
  10. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    In the same way cars are unnecessary
     
  11. JohnnyQuickkick

    JohnnyQuickkick Calcio correspondent

    I don’t want a self-driving car, ever. Ok, not unless I’m physically unable to drive
     
  12. gcbvol

    gcbvol Fabulous Moderator

    They're definitely the future, but we'll all be gone before it is the only option.
     
  13. warhammer

    warhammer Chieftain

    Nope. Cars are here and necessary based on how we currently function as a society. To do without would involve major changes in the lifestyle and even means of survival for millions.
    Self-driving cars serve little to no purpose at this point. Setting them as essential as cars driven by humans is no logical.

    Providing the manufacturers with no incentive to innovate is favoritism at best and could be construed as cronyism.
     
  14. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    I would take one in a half a heart beat.
     
  15. gcbvol

    gcbvol Fabulous Moderator

    They make much more sense in large cities and is where we'll see the initial widespread use. Barring a significant leap in vehicle 'cognitive' capability, updated infrastructure will be a requirement for large scale deployment.
     
  16. lumberjack4

    lumberjack4 Chieftain

    It's not that something is guaranteed but it should be prioritized. Think of trying to use your cell phone at the average football game. It's pointless, the network is flooded. It doesn't matter how data efficient someone's 5G pacemaker is, 20K sorority girls stream god knows what at half time has saturated the network and effectively has taken it offline.
     
  17. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    The AI is rapidly improving. Look at where self driving cars were just 10 years ago. And with my 40+ minute commute to work, damn skippy I would love for a majority of that to be free from me having to drive.
     
  18. lumberjack4

    lumberjack4 Chieftain

    At times self driving cars would be nice, other times I like to drive. Regardless, its the future and its coming in the next 10-15 years.
     
  19. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Come sit in 2+ hours of traffic to go 25 miles with me every day.

    In an increasingly urbanized world, 3 million independent users are not an efficient transportation situation. We waste 100's of billions of fuel and time sitting in traffic-- that is literally unavoidable with human operators
     
  20. warhammer

    warhammer Chieftain

    What's your point? There are other options besides self driving cars. Why not incentivise businesses to relocate out of the area? You could find another job, relocate if your time meant that much to you. I would. Unless you are in favor of mandating self driving cars (and even if you are), you aren't guaranteeing your commute time is going to improve. For that matter, if they are to be mandated, go ahead and mandate mass transit use. Pay for it with crippling tolls. Self driving cars as a necessity is an opinion. Nothing more, nothing less.
     

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