Shrout

Discussion in 'Vols Football' started by CardinalVol, Oct 29, 2018.

  1. BigOrangeBeech

    BigOrangeBeech Poster of the Month, July 2014 and recruiting guy!

    You dont gain much if anything with Chryst IMO. I think overall what we get accomplished this season would be about the same regardless of which one is playing. In that case you keep the younger guy happy. If Shrout or Maurer are good enough to beat him out next year then so be it.
     
  2. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    That's just it: he hasn't been beaten out. Changing to Chryst won't make much difference other than further damaging the psyche of the guy who will be back.

    If Shrout were significantly better, he would be playing.
     
  3. SGMVols

    SGMVols Contributor

    I don’t think it’s going to be that lopsided. They’re 4-4 and just beat Southern Miss. Much better team than UTEP.
     
  4. SGMVols

    SGMVols Contributor

    They won’t play Shrout this year unless JG and Chryst both get hurt. Needs weight room time.
     
  5. warhammer

    warhammer Chieftain

    It's all mental with Guarantano. He throws a nice ball and has good arm strength. He just doesn't see the field and takes too long to make decisions.
     
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  6. lylsmorr

    lylsmorr Super Moderator

    Happens when you spend two years under a moron with no QB coaching
     
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  7. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    He does lack an internal clock - but it’s much worse off the field, than on.

    It’s obvious to me that he is no better at knowing when to throw it on the field, than when it’s time to study and learn the playbook, to watch film, or otherwise be better prepared.

    That’s what that “deer in the headlights” is - the symptom of a complete lack of preparation.

    I’ll start blaming the coaches just as soon as they give him more than 1-2 reads a play (80% of his routes are 1-2 receivers, at most), or his OL when they fail to give him less than 3 seconds to locate / aim / throw - but for as shitty as they are, he usually has at least 3 seconds to let it go.

    But as long as he doesn’t have any inking as to when a blitz is coming, or still obviously struggles to read a defense (and I mean, just man-to-man or zone....not even the actual defense), well, that’s all on him.

    And I agree with everyone who says that the guy is absolutely tough as nails. I really, really do. But it’s starting to look more and more like he’s only tough because he has to be, and he only has to be because he his completely unprepared to do the work necessary to play quarterback at this level.

    But he’s only “tough” insofar as his lack of preparation requires him to be, and much in the same respect that a guy keeps getting up after being repeatedly shocked by pissing on an electric fence. Yeah, he’s tough as hell, for sure, but only because he couldn’t be bothered with knowing and remembering where the electric fence is, or has been too unconcerned with remembering what happens when he again forgets, and stupidly thinks that he can still piss anywhere behind the barn, without suffering the same fate.

    That’s tough, but it damned sure isn’t being prepared.

    And when picking a QB, I’ll take prepared over tough, any day of the week.

    Why? Because I like to both win football games and don’t like to see people get unnecessarily hurt by easily avoidable things. That’s why.
     
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  8. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    I somewhat agree.

    But there are below-average high school quarterbacks who can identify blitzes and read defenses, and didn’t require college level coaching to learn it.

    And I can’t imagine how they could possibly simplify this offense any further, without completely abandoning the forward pass, altogether.
     
  9. lylsmorr

    lylsmorr Super Moderator

    I don't think much QB development happens at the high school level now. It's one read or check down or bust. System QBs are created
     
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  10. lumberjack4

    lumberjack4 Chieftain

    I would have assumed taking a metric shit ton of hits due to the swiss cheese oline, if anything, would have him get rid of it faster.
     
  11. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    When you’re unprepared, already difficult decisions don’t become easier when the problems are accelerated.

    If you fail to solve a rubik’s cube while sitting on your couch, racing around Bristol at 120mph won’t make the task any easier, or your likely rate of success, any better.
     
  12. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Went to the White House...Again

    Not with this OL and mind on the future
     
  13. lumberjack4

    lumberjack4 Chieftain

    Throwing a ball into the stands is easier than solving a rubik's cube. If I was taking those kinds of hits, I'd 1) cry and 2) throw it away after like 3 seconds in the hopes of not having my ribs crushed. It's interesting to me that the hits have seemingly made JG hold the ball even longer as if he's playing 10 or 100 Mississippi rush
     
  14. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    It’s curious, but no more so than the deer who stand scared in the road and get ran over, when they could have been spared by taking 3 steps in almost any direction.
     
  15. DC Vol

    DC Vol Contributor

    JG, when it comes to the intangibles of the QB position, embodies the "if you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough" mantra.
     

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