NFL Draft 2012 1 Andrew Luck 4* 4th OVR QB, 68th in Rivals100 2 Robert Griffin III 4* 4th OVR DTQB 3 Trent Richardson 5* 2nd OVR RB, 6th in Rivals100 4 Matt Kalil 5* 3rd OVR OT, 11th in Rivals100 5 Justin Blackmon 3* 91st OVR WR 6 Morris Claiborne 3* 38th OVR ATH 7 Mark Barron 4* 5th OVR ATH, 55th in Rivals100 8 Ryan Tannehill 3* 23rd OVR DTQB 9 Luke Kuechly 3* 44th OVR OLB 10 Stephon Gilmore 4* 6th OVR ATH, 84th in Rivals100 11 Dontari Poe 2* 12 Fletcher Cox 4* 5th OVR WDE, 95th in Rivals100 13 Michael Floyd 5* WR, 6th OVR WR, 27th in Rivals100 14 Michael Brockers 4* 10th OVR SDE, 201st in Rivals250 15 Bruch Irvin 4* JUCO 16 Quinton Coples 4* 6th OVR SDE, 105th in Rivals259 17 Dre Kirkpatrick 5* 1st OVR CB, 11th in Rival100 18 Melvin Ingram 4* 21st OVR OLB 19 Shea McClellin 2* 20 Kendal Wright 3* 64th OVR WR 21 Chandler Jones 2* 22 Brandon Weeden (baseball) 23 Riley Reiff 3* 25th OVR SDE 24 David DeCastro 3* 11th OVR OG 25 Donta Hightower 4* 15th OVR ILB 26 Whitney Mercilus 3* 28th OVR WDE 27 Kevin Zeitler 3* 39th OVR OG 28 Nick Perry 4* 2nd OVR WDE, 56th in Rivals100 29 Harrison Smith 4* 25th OVR ATH 30 AJ Jenkins 3* 53rd OVR WR 31 Doug Martin 2* 32 David Wilson 4* 4th OVR RB, 40th in Rivals100 33 Brian Quick unranked 34 Coby Fleener 3* 40th OVR TE 35 Courtney Upshaw 4* 12th OVR OLB, 131st in Rivals250 36 Derek Wolfe 2* 37 Mitchell Schwartz 3* 27th OVR OT 38 Andre Branch 2* 39 Janoris Jenkins 4* 6th OVR CB, 51st in Rivals100 40 Amini Silatolu unranked 41 Cordy Glenn 4* 16th OVR OT 137th in Rivals250 42 Jonathon Martin 3* 44th OVR OT 43 Stephen Hill 3* 99th OVR WR 44 Jeff Allen 2* 45 Alshon Jeffery 4* 13th OVR WR, 99th in Rivals100 46 Mychal Kendricks 3* 45th OVR OLB 47 Bobby Wagner 2* 48 Tavon Wilson 3* 60th OVR CB 49 Kendall Reyes 2* 50 Isaiah Pead 3* 26th OVR RB About 25 5*'s per year About 300 4*'s per year About 750 3*'s per year About 2000 2*'s and unranked per year Out of the top 50 in last years draft: 5*'s: 4 4*'s: 16 3*'s: 17 2*'s/unranked: 13 4/25=16% or .16 16/300=5% or .05 17/750=2% or .02 13/2000=0.6% or .006 I was always told by people that would know, "1% of HS football players make it to Div I, and 1% of Div I players make it to the NFL." There is a better chance that a 5* will make it into the top 50 of the NFL draft than a 3*. This is only one year, but I can guarantee that this isn't an outlier and does occur every year.
Was a 0* in 2002 out of high school. Fun fact: 3 guys from the state of Tennessee went in the first round. None of which, obviously, played for UT. (Poe, Hightower, and Smith)
Oh, I know. Just filling in the blank. Just read something that said this was in the infancy of the star ranking system, and they didn't bother ranking him because it was pretty much guaranteed he was going to play baseball.
I'm pretty motherfukking sure I never said stars didn't matter. I look at film on the guys that UT is considering to recruit and then when I or another film/recruiting junkie posts in the recruiting forum about a guy ... and then someone swoops in and posts a retarded ass response like "oh that guy is just a three star" then it shows me that said poster has no ****ing clue what he is looking at. All he knows is the stars ... has no idea what he's looking at when he sees film on a guy. If all you can post is "oh he's a three star" then please stay out of the recruiting forum and let the guys that actually enjoy that stuff talk intelligently about it. I love me some stars as well as the next guy ... all I was saying is that there are times when those stars are overrated and/or underrated. My point is that the stars are a great evaluation tool but they are not the be all end all and simply looking at the stars beside a players name to make you judgement is very lazy IMO.
Here's what I'll say about stars: I think if you focus in too much on 1 player at a time, you'll find tons of 5 star busts and 3 star studs. But if you take a step back and look at the big picture/overall trend it will tell you how a team is recruiting pretty accurately. i.e. a team signing a roster full of 4 and 5 star players is going to be more talented.
Your post stated my feelings much better than I could put them into words. It's basically the way I feel and what I was trying to say. I certainly wasn't dismissing the 4 and 5* rankings by any means ... I was just trying to say not to dismiss a player solely based on that.
The real question is how many stars was Indy coming out of high school? I'm guessing he was a 2 star before analysts watched him get tackled by a kicker - they probably deleted his scout/rivals profile shortly after.
In before someone calls Bassman out for not even playing football, in before Bassman makes pathetic racist excuses about being at a school with "a lot of black people."
Played football till I was 15 - quit because too many black people went to my school and they were all 5 stars but didnt have the money to transfer to an expensive small Christian school with 200 students where all my friends went on to dominate all the 5'3 5.2 forty white guys around the state.
