Title IX

Discussion in 'VOLuminous' started by JohnnyQuickkick, Aug 6, 2012.

  1. JohnnyQuickkick

    JohnnyQuickkick Calcio correspondent

    Something I'm pondering today:

    It seems to me this day and age that Title IX is as much of a limiting factor as anything. I wish it wasn't so restrictive. I hate that there are sports that can't happen at UT because of it. I'm not saying it should be totally scrapped, but I just wonder what would happen if it were? Would women's sports just go away without it? I don't find much interest in women's sports personally but I'd hate for that to happen. I wonder if there is some way to reform it to keep the protection it gives women's sports yet not put so much restriction on what universities can do?
    Me personally, I'd love to see men's soccer at UT, I think it would do well. Knoxville is pretty much a soccer hotbed, at least for this region.
     
  2. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Women's sports would dry up fast. I agree that there should be a way to negotiate more flexibility somehow.
     
  3. The NCAA should simply require an equal number of men's and women's scholarships at each school, with higher limits on the number of scholarships per sport, minus basketball and football, which have enough. And have no minimums. If UT wants a men's soccer team of instate walk-ons or only a few scholarship players, so be it. It would help the women, because most school double count ladies that run track and XC as 2 scholarships.
     
  4. tvolsfan

    tvolsfan Chieftain

    Even if the money was there, I don't think college soccer would become a major sport. The top players shouldn't be considering NCAA soccer.
     
  5. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    I don't either, but it would be nice to see UT field a team. And there is enough good, but not world class talent around Knoxville to probably field the core of a decent team IMO.
     
  6. volfanjo

    volfanjo Chieftain

    I think the UT women's team will be national caliber sooner than later imo. Pensky can coach.
     
  7. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    What would be the best option for the top players and do we have that many at that level?
     
  8. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    Women's sports are singlehandedly bankrupting cal's athletic department. It's absurd we have to offer scholarships to offset those taken by the sports who literally pay for the rest of the athletic department.
     
  9. JohnnyQuickkick

    JohnnyQuickkick Calcio correspondent

    Don't disagree, but also doesn't mean I wouldn't enjoy going over to the stadium and watching, which was more my point.
     
  10. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    I would generally expect college soccer to be on par with college baseball for better or worse. Most of the best players aren't playing in it, but it would still be some pretty good players.
     
  11. tvolsfan

    tvolsfan Chieftain

    Developmental academies, either here or overseas. I'm confident that we'll continue moving in this direction.

    I'm not sure how many of the young players at MLS teams come from college right now. I think the number will continue to drop.
     
    Last edited: Aug 7, 2012
  12. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"


    Professional academies, i.e. the European Way. No time limits, better competition and structure. We have a lot of kids in the MLS academies and a few in some places like Liverpool and Bayern Munich. I believe there's even a kid in the Barcelona training center.
     
  13. tvolsfan

    tvolsfan Chieftain

    Fair enough.
     
  14. tvolsfan

    tvolsfan Chieftain

    Ben Lederman. I think he's 11 right now.
     
  15. tvolsfan

    tvolsfan Chieftain

    It wouldn't be like that. At least not long term.
     
  16. volfanjo

    volfanjo Chieftain

    It doesn't mean you can't develop in a college program. Dempsey played at Furman and went on to stardom. That's the exception, of course, but there is still very good coaching and talent at the collegiate level here. Incidentally, we never hear a lot of stories about the guy that goes through the development process and flames out.
     
  17. dknash

    dknash Chieftain

    Counted 12 of the 23 roster players from the last round of qualifiers that played collegiately (concentrated in defense, GKs, and the bench). It's probably about 50/50 with the remaining 11 whether they were academy or didn't live in the US during development. The majority of the starting midfield and forward rotation comes from that 11, however.

    It likely changes going forward.
     
  18. tvolsfan

    tvolsfan Chieftain

    You're right, but it's going to change going forward. US Soccer knows it's what will have to happen for us to start competing internationally.


    Looking at our youth teams, it seems like most are already with some club.
     

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