U.S. top earners pay larger share of taxes than any other industrialized nation

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  1. VolDad

    VolDad Super Moderator

    The Wall Street Journal's Stephen Moore has just come out with a new book titled Who's the Fairest of Them All?: The Truth about Opportunity, Taxes, and Wealth in America and he reveals some interesting information about how much the top ten percent of income earners in the United States pay in federal income taxes as opposed to any other industrialized nation in the world.

    According to Moore, these earners pay almost half (45 percent) of the country's total taxes. This conclusion flies in the face of the liberal concept that top earners in the U.S. are not paying their "fair share" in taxes. Moore explains:

    "The United States is actually more dependent on rich people to pay taxes than even many of the more socialized economies of Europe. According to the Tax Foundation, the United States gets 45 percent of its total taxes from the top 10 percent of tax filers, whereas the international average in industrialized nations is 32 percent. America’s rich carry a larger share of the tax burden than do the rich in Belgium (25 percent), Germany (31 percent), France (28 percent), and even Sweden (27 percent).

    "Moore also delves into what the "47 percent" of America actually pays and receives from the federal government and that the perception that the middle class is shrinking is a myth. In fact, the actual trend has been an upward mobility and a better standard of living for the middle class and lower income earners in the last 25 years.

    The Heritage Foundation has been arguing these facts for years. Consider what happened each time the U.S. reduced the tax rate significantly:

    1920s: The top tax rate fell from 73 percent to 25 percent, yet the rich (in those days, those earning $50,000 and up) went from paying 44.2 percent of the tax burden in 1921 to paying more than 78 percent in 1928.

    1960s: President John F. Kennedy slashed the top tax rate from 91 percent to 70 percent. In the ensuing three years, those making more than $50,000 annually saw their tax payments rise by 57 percent, and their share of the tax burden climbed from 11.6 percent to 15.1 percent.

    1980s: The Reagan years saw the top rate fall from 70 percent in 1980 to 28 percent in 1988. What happened to the rich? The top 1 percent went from shouldering 17.6 percent of the income tax burden in 1981 to paying 27.5 percent of the total in 1988. The top 10 percent saw their share of the burden climb from 48 percent in 1981 to over 57 percent in 1988.

    Additionally, more tax revenue went back to the federal government each time the taxes were lowered. So does it really make it sense to strip the upper income earners of their keep? Liberals have yet to answer how that ever improves the lives of the middle class or lower income earners in the long run.



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  2. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Don't you think that has to do with how much MORE income the top 10 % is earning than the bottom 90 %?

    That's rhetorical. Of course it does. The fact that their "burden" went up when the rates were lowered indicates that the lofty amount they pay has a whole lot more to do with the vast sizes of incomes within the top 10 % relative to the lower 90 % than the rate itself.
     
  3. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Also, notice how the measuring stick is moved around to skew the perception of the data. In the 1920's, the wealthy was $50,000 and up. But was it in the 1960's too? Probably not, but they kept the same metric despite the change due to inflation and income. In the 1980's, are we still looking at the 10%? No. The "wealthy" bracket? No. So $50,000 + earners? Nope.

    Now we are talking about the 1 %.

    Why do you suppose they approached it that way? Couldn't possibly be to manipulate the data for effect, right? That'd be deceitful.
     
  4. gorockytop101

    gorockytop101 New Member

    "Additionally, more tax revenue went back to the federal government each time the taxes were lowered."

    A decrease in taxes leading to an increase in wealth which broadens the tax base? Nah, we're just more dependent on rich people.
     
  5. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    more than germany or france? ehhh. i'd be surprised if our rich were really making that much more than other countries on a relative basis.
     

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