Yet another mass shooting

Discussion in 'Politicants' started by NorrisAlan, Nov 8, 2018.

  1. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    I agree, but does that mean they have a mental illness? is every violent criminal mentally ill?
     
  2. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    I think there is a big difference in being mentally ill and being a shithead.

    IMO, most people who do this stuff are total shitheads.
     
  3. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    definitely a ven diagram
     
  4. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Went to the White House...Again

    Premeditated, yes. Domestic fits of rage go deeper imo.
     
  5. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    We try to apply some type of science to everything. Not saying that's bad and in many cases it is the correct thing to do. IMO, people who do this are just shitheads.
     
  6. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    science is just a system of knowing through observation, study, and experimentation. to not attempt to apply any science to it is to not want to understand it or know objective facts about it.
     
  7. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    Let me rephrase -

    It happens and we try to fix them into a nice little box scientifically. Just seems way more complicated than that. And its society at large, not necessarily scientists.
     
  8. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    I disagree, humans are reductive and tend to need boxes to conceptualize. the boxes don't really exist in science, except as a tool for organizing the information. this is especially so in the social sciences.
     
  9. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    These are bad. The top one is worse.

    It basically came to this conclusion:

    "I threatened you with a gun, and while doing so showed no signs of defined mental illness, so the problem is the weapon. (But don't ask me to speak on what type of person threatens in the first place, as that will harm my study.)"
     
  10. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    I guess now we start to hear about red flag laws and all that.

    I'm honestly at the point that I just don't care anymore.
     
  11. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    I think it was more about the lack of correlation with mental illness. that a firearm is integral to threatening with a firearm, I think we can all accept.
     
  12. kmf600

    kmf600 Energy vampire

    That's where they want you to be
     
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  13. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    No, it was correlation with certain subsets of mental illnesses. Rage may also be a mental illness--and people who threaten are typically raging. Most people don't make calm threats.
     
  14. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    There is no fight left in me, anywhere. So yea, they win.
     
  15. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Rage is a mental illness? So everyone is mentally ill, and thus it doesn't correlate with mass shootings that way either?

    I don't want you or any other law-abiding person to lose anything you've been enjoying, just to be sure this isn't getting twisted. I don't do anything with them, but I too own a couple of firearms and maybe one day when I have a different situation would like to own more, use them more, etc.

    I don't think the status quo is the best we can do, all things considered. It certainly isn't an "all or nothing" sort of problem.
     
  16. JohnnyQuickkick

    JohnnyQuickkick Calcio correspondent

    I’m not sure I’ve ever experienced “rage”
     
  17. InVolNerable

    InVolNerable Fark Master Flex

    I read this as, “definitely a vegan”

    I didn’t see the correlation.
     
  18. InVolNerable

    InVolNerable Fark Master Flex

    Just wait another ~16 days.
     
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  19. kmf600

    kmf600 Energy vampire

    Wait until you're married
     
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  20. kmf600

    kmf600 Energy vampire

    Sorry, I didn't read this before I replied
     

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