COVID-19 (artist formerly known as Wuhan strain novel Corona virus)

It was there in November as well

 

It's not a big deal, and it never really left. You can find it in rodent populations on at least 4 continents. Periodically, folks catch it from prairie dogs out West for example. When the entire population isn't rat and flea infested, it doesn't have the same spreading power. Also, many of us have at least some resistance now that slows how easily it can spread.

 

You are right, it's worse. It's 2020.

 

Fortunately we’ve discovered antibiotics since 1349

 

Which come October we will discover that the plague has developed an immunity to.

 

I was prairie dogging last week, Thursday morning after breakfast

 

Can I have your stuff?

 

So they're shutting Miami-Dade county again.

 

I'm just accepting the realization that we arent playing football this fall and lifeay he slamming on the breaks again.

 

I honestly don’t know how it plays out.

Cases are soaring but deaths haven’t caught up yet.

I just think people are over it but what will those in administration positions do is the question.

 

July will decide how over it people are.

 

A bunch of lawsuits from business owners are coming. I dont blame them.

 

I heard the same thing about May and June

 

Where? I heard everything would be good now and that the warm summer weather will stop the virus from transmitting. I heard that right here. I have read tweets, comments, and posts each month since March that it is petering out and new cases will be next to zero by the end of [this month]. I heard we were near herd immunity back in May because it had probably already been here longer than we thought, so many already had it and wouldn't get it again. I still hear that we we are "near herd immunity."

None of the above from any expert, of course.

 

When you look at states like Arizona, Texas, Florida, and South Carolina, for example, you can see clearly that hospitalizations and deaths/day are trending up. However, the percent growth in cases far exceeds that of deaths.

Obvious potential reasons are percent growth of cases relative to percent growth of infections is much lower than it has been in past (better detection), better treatment, and a shifting age distribution of the infected (better outcomes).

However, I also saw an someone discussing lead time bias yesterday, which I found interesting. Arguing that we now have early detection and that the relationship between "new case detected" and "death reported" will be a longer lead time now with earlier detection (on average).

 

I haven't heard much of that at all in regards to what IP mentions. If warm weather was beneficial, why was Miami a hotbed. Brazil, etc. I don't recall anyone here or anybody I've spoken with who felt that way. Vitamin D was discussed as obviously older patients have been deficient. Who said the sun would make it the virus go away? Hell Fauci and CDC told us it could sit on a handrail at the beach for days so heat wouldn't kill it anyway.
I believe what you have heard are estimates by some of 10-20x the amount of people who have it or have had it, compared to cases listed, therefore dropping the death rate dramatically from what the media and other specialists have warned. You have heard some people question the severity of the virus as well as how long it has been around and will be. Fact is people are ready to move on from this overhyped virus and tired of being misled and controlled from the get go.

 

Yes, that is what my concern has been. That being said, the death numbers I would have been expecting based on infections the second half of June I thought would begin showing up now, and they have not. So perhaps there really is something different (besides detection) now vs in March/April. Or the lag is much greater than it was/I underestimate the lag.

Another piece of positive news is that the rate of growth has decreased again, but I think testing availability in some hard hit places like Arizona may have something to do with that, plus a level of "saturation" in cases within some of the high growth populations, like prisons. Something like 95% of inmates in some places that have been tested have tested positive at some point. And obviously prison is very different than life outside.

 

Because at one time Miami and Brazil were not hotbeds. I'm not calling anyone quoted here out at all, just pointing out that his had been a well-worn idea before basically the middle of June, though it was always more of a hope and didn't have much direct evidence to support it, just comparisons to flu season and some other coronaviruses.

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You imagined or misinterpreted something, this was never said. We've already talked about this fantasy twice in this thread.

 

First article i came upon. 9 days mentioned. Its not a fantasy and many other people read or heard on tv up to 14 days when the panic began.
I believe people hoped sun would help as we were in cold of february and flu season but it was a discussion, not stating opinion as fact.

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/a...-how-long-can-coronavirus-survive-on-surfaces

 

https://www.infectioncontroltoday.c...covid-19-stays-undisinfected-surfaces-17-days