It's not demonizing to call a lie a lie. Your previous post just said it was obvious we made up a reason.
Nothing I said was wrong. Does it really hurt your feelings when I call Iran a terrorist regime? --they had just lit up US targets --they had just threatened more worldwide death --they "accidentally" fired at what they thought was a missile, because they were idiots and ready to fire at anything, obviously, even when flight plans are detailed prior --they acting like it never happened for 4 days. Nothing there is incorrect.
That’s a stupid ‘article.’ The guy is reporting real time from there, says he isn’t sure about it, but that Iranian STATE media is reporting US casualties. Can’t be much clearer than that.
I'd say it's more stupid to lie about American deaths, and stupid for them to report it with zero proof. Article is the least of the dumb things involved. "I'm not sure America, but if you have a child in Iraq, 30 are dead."
I have mixed feelings. If I am the child, spouse, relative or friend of someone deployed I am panicked by the reporting. Why cause the unnecessary angst of millions reporting Iranian propaganda?
True. It is demonizing to either a) blame or b) refused not to blame someone for something like a plane getting shot out of the sky though.
In a live event you are reporting it with source and saying it in a way that casts some doubt on it, it’s not being an enemy of the state. That’s just bullshit. Reporting it as fact or from confidential sources when you know it’s state media would be bad journalism but this seems reasonable.
Iran isn't our enemy? No idea what else you are talking about. Dont create me saying MSNBC is an enemy of the state when I didn't. Just called them more dumb than the summary article.
I think this fully depends on just how clearly it is known propaganda. If Iran says ‘we launched this attack’ is it propaganda to say ‘Iran claims responsibility for the attack.’ If Iran says we have killed US soldiers is it propaganda to say ‘The Iranian state media is reporting US deaths’? I don’t think so if it is an unfolding situation. If you report that unsourced and don’t seek to confirm it from US sources, then you are promoting an agenda. But it’s live news. Let’s get real here. I get that people might get scared by that but it’s a scary situation. This wasn’t an editorial situation - you’re literally talking live to a reporter on the ground and he’s telling you what he’s hearing from official sources (some of which will be true and some propaganda - and he even qualified wha he thought might be false with ‘I don’t know about this but Iran is saying’). I would have to see the video to have a final opinion on this but this just seems like people looking for something to get riled up about.
Oh I skimmed that part. I dont agree with that. Irresponsible, dumb and trying to break news is a bad combo, especially when nowadays, it doesnt seem to matter what is true or not and no repercussions for bullshit reporting
They’ll get hammered for actual American casualties, not for lying about it. Lying gives you the bump you seek at home, but without the risk.
I get that, but from a journalistic standpoint, Iran saying that they’ve killed Americans is certainly news, and which you must report. That s/he added the very important caveat that they couldn’t independently confirm the veracity of Iran’s claims is responsible journalism.
Who, other than Iran, lied about American deaths? No one. Some of y'all are so horny for a "gotcha," it's sad.
The level of protests, and what they are saying, in Iran are worth watching. I've been saying it for years, that is a young population and they are sick of the bullshit.
