COVID-19 (artist formerly known as Wuhan strain novel Corona virus)

Discussion in 'The Thunderdome' started by IP, Jan 28, 2020.

  1. Indy

    Indy Pronoun Analyst

    No, I assumed we’d have a realistic conversation about the threat posed by someone with Covid symptoms a week ago who tested negative for Covid twice, framed around the validity of a question (have you had symptoms in the past 14 days) that is probably a bit outdated, considering where we are in the pandemic.

    But people on here can’t be wrong, even when they’ve clearly misread something and are talking about how lying about symptoms is going to lead to a misdiagnosis… of something like a [uck fay]ing skin rash or at a follow up on how a broken bone is healing.
     
  2. The Dooz

    The Dooz Super Moderator

    If you were going to have her do it anyway, why are you coming here for advice in the first place?

    You don’t need to waste our time with an 8 paragraphs on why you’re an asshole. Just for future reference, you can be an asshole without wasting our time.
     
  3. The Dooz

    The Dooz Super Moderator

    I about spit coffee all over my phone.
     
  4. Indy

    Indy Pronoun Analyst

    I’m not going to “have her do” anything. She’s an adult human and can make her own decisions without me holding her hand.

    I figured the conversation would be mostly focused on what happens if you say yes to the 14 day question. Do they ask follow up questions? Do they give you a chance to explain? Or does it move straight into “symptoms in the last 14 days = might have Covid, so you can’t come in. See you in 3 months.”

    But we never got there because multiple people (you included) thought she was going to the doctor because of her symptoms, not for something completely unrelated, like I said in the original post.
     
  5. utvol0427

    utvol0427 Chieftain

    There isn't a conversation to be had. She's been sick, if she's asked she needs to be truthful. If asked her response should be, "Yes, I've been sick, but I tested negative for Covid" and they will make a decision based off of that information. There isn't any other way an intelligent person would handle that conversation.

    I've been dealing with the same thing with my son for the last 6 months. Due to complications at birth and his HIE diagnosis, my son has to go to a ENT specialist. We've been trying to get in since September but have had to reschedule numerous appointments due to illness. Never once did it cross my mind to lie about it or not notify them to reschedule.
     
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  6. The Dooz

    The Dooz Super Moderator

    I read your original post you petulant [uck fay]ing child. In whole. A couple of times.

    That you don’t like the answer you’ve been given is your problem, not ours.
     
  7. Indy

    Indy Pronoun Analyst

    Your initial response to the question was:

    Assume it's a non contact knee injury. Can the doctor diagnose a non contact injury if you lie about having had covid symptoms the previous week. Yes or no?

    If yes, then there is a point in going to the doctor, even if you're going to lie to the doctor. The point is to get your [uck fay]ing non contact knee injury diagnosed, which absolutely can still happen even if you lie to the doctor about last week's Covid symptoms.

    You may not agree with the decision to do so, and you may think it's the wrong decision. But there is 100%, absolutely, without a doubt, still a point in going to the doctor.

    You misread the post, dude. It's okay. Your final opinion doesn't have to change, but the support to get there does.
     
  8. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    I wouldn't lie, I would say I felt sick whenever I did and tell them i had a negative rona test. The negative test means they probably aren't rescheduling her
     
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  9. The Dooz

    The Dooz Super Moderator

    Cry about it some more.
     
  10. Indy

    Indy Pronoun Analyst

    Lol, but I'm the petulant child. Right.
     
  11. The Dooz

    The Dooz Super Moderator

    Glad we agree.
     
  12. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Went to the White House...Again

    Just wear a mask
     
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  13. Indy

    Indy Pronoun Analyst

    I would agree that the negative rona test, mixed with multiple days of no fever/symptoms means that they SHOULDN'T be rescheduling her. I was trying to figure out that's how it would actually play out though, as we have not been in this situation yet.
     
  14. Indy

    Indy Pronoun Analyst

    I'm sorry to hear that about your son. Illness at the time of his appointment? Or confirmed non-Covid illness a week prior?

    If the appointment had been scheduled for last Tuesday, when she was actually sick, even if she had already tested negative once, I'd be all for rescheduling. Tests can be wrong, and it's not a good idea to spread the flu, even if it isn't Covid. But if you test negative multiple times and aren't contagious anymore, based on your symptoms having been gone for multiple days... why would rescheduling the appointment make sense?

    And again, I'm not sure they give an option for a "but." I don't know that she would get to explain her multiple negative tests, or her symptoms being gone for multiple days. That's part of why I brought up the question here.
     
  15. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    It's a simple thing for me. Honesty is the best policy when looking to work with someone for their expertise. And really, honesty is the best policy. Period.
     
  16. Indy

    Indy Pronoun Analyst

    Like, I'm honestly a bit surprised to hear someone who has a son who needs the care of a specialist say "there's no conversation to be had" here. Where's Float when you need him?

    Rules should make sense. If the point of the 14 day question is to prevent the spread of Covid, then why would we allow it to potentially siphon out people who literally don't have Covid, based on multiple tests, and delay their care as a result?
     
  17. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Don't just say "tested negative," though. Let them know "tested negative twice" while symptomatic and has been asymptomatic for x days. Whatever they do, let them do it with all the information. Don't pre-emptively [itch bay] while figuring out what not to tell them.
     
  18. Indy

    Indy Pronoun Analyst

    I'm with you. But couldn't the situation be remedied with an update to the question? Isn't the "14 days" question outdated, at this point?
     
  19. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    LOL, you are outraged about a day dream right now.
     
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  20. Indy

    Indy Pronoun Analyst

    Again, I'm not even 100% sure that they will give her the option to provide context. Are you just assuming they will, or are you confident that they will, based on past experience or your awareness of some sort of standardized approach to this process?
     

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