We know the biology of the vaccine though. So in that fashion, we do know the long term effects. Now, if we want to look at this like it's a computer application, there might be a "bug" somewhere along the biological pathway for the vaccine. But that's unlikely.
right. it's extremely unlikely it's going to have major long term effects, but it's also extremely unlikely a kid under 5 will have a bad case of covid.
Right, but the known risks are lower with the vaccine than without. Speculative risks, we can't measure, it's a crap shoot. So if we judge only the known risks, the vaccine reduces the risk.
While both are unlikely, they are not equally so and the math indicates vaccination is recommended. The long term effects of lipids and RNA? JFC, how would you escape that? These vaccines are not exotic in composition. If the vaccine is going to cause a problem, then covid would have too, and moreover. So then it becomes a matter of if one is going to ever be around other people. If so, the answer is vaccinate. It's math. It's not emotion or vague "unlikelies." If it ain't a bubble boy and they are cleared for the shot, they are better off with it. When you factor in herd immunity, it becomes a slam dunk. You do you, but don't pretend like it is logical to not do it. It is no more logical than not vaccinating for anything else.
That's mathematically not accurate. Neither risk is zero, and one is bigger than the other. That is a fact.
uh the vaccine doesn't stop people from spreading or getting covid. that's been pretty much proven. getting the vaccine is to prevent bad outcomes which healthy kids under 5 have none.
Uh, that's exactly why I said herd immunity and not immunity. How is this misconception still a thing?
you man like the people who still believe getting vaccinated helps keep other people safer even though there is zero evidence that is true?
This is like saying the odds of winning any game are the same. There are plenty of studies that show this is not the case. Transmission rates and illness severity are less with vaccinated people.