Hurd Gone

Discussion in 'Vols Football' started by JT5, Oct 30, 2016.

  1. kidbourbon

    kidbourbon Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't pay any mind to being objectively incorrect on every conceivable level. Because, you know, you weren't the only one who may have said it. Champions of life all around, I say.
     
  2. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    The point of the comment was the encouragement of you leaving.
     
  3. The Dooz

    The Dooz Super Moderator

    Going to the NFL. I'm shocked.
     
  4. BigOrangeBeech

    BigOrangeBeech Poster of the Month, July 2014 and recruiting guy!

    The plan all along
     
  5. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Let that speak to how much he didn't want to play for Butch. Not even to finish the season.
     
  6. kidbourbon

    kidbourbon Well-Known Member

  7. kidbourbon

    kidbourbon Well-Known Member

  8. Indy

    Indy Pronoun Analyst

    I’ll preface by saying I think Kamara is killing it this year and am happy to see him finding so much success in the NFL.

    But you missed the point the first time around, and you’re still missing it.

    Why is Kamara so successful this year? Because he is in an offensive system that plays to his SKILL SET and highlights his STRENGTHS, rather than forcing him to do things he’s not good at.

    They’re not asking him to carry the ball 30 times per game because he wouldn’t be successful doing that. Hell, the most carries he’s had in a single game all season has been 12, and he’s only had double digit carries in 3 games all season. They let Ingram take on the bulk of the carries and they use Kamara strategically to get him the ball in space, where he’s dangerous. That’s what he’s good at, and they play to his strengths.

    Hurd did NOT have that luxury at UT. He played in a system that did match his running style, making it impossible to reach his full potential. And despite that, he STILL would have finished his career here as our all time leading rusher, had he stayed.

    Look, I’m not taking anything away from Kamara and what he’s been able to accomplish, but the point all along has been that playing in the right system matters. Kamara has been incredibly fortunate to land in the scheme he’s in, and it’s allowing him to shine.

    It’s the same scheme that’s helping Ingram log the best season he’s ever had in his 8 year NFL career.
     
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  9. dc4utvols

    dc4utvols Contributor

    Yep they ran Kamara up the middle and Hurd wide. Out thought themselves frequently. It would have been nice to have a couple of plays a game where Hurd played FB for Kamara out of the I. Also imagine running that GT offense for a series or two in a game with Hurd, Kamara and Dobbs.
     
  10. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    They put Hurd at FB with Kamara running behind him I think only one time. Gained like 14 yards, so of course we never did it again.
     
  11. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    I am in the process of purging the last 8 years out of my head, and you dumb shits keep bringing this crap up.
     
  12. PilotFlyingJ

    PilotFlyingJ Chieftain

    Hurd should sue Butch for his eventual case of CTE
     
  13. lylsmorr

    lylsmorr Super Moderator

    Hard to judge anyone under the idiots they played under. Hurd and Kamara should have been 1k yards per season apiece. In the same season.
     
  14. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Hurd in an H-back role with kamara at rb... damn.
     
  15. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator


    GT's system isn't one that you just date. You either marry it and commit to it, or you don't run it at all.
     
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  16. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    Wasn't in the playbook
     
  17. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    Give us an OL coach that could get those 4-5 star guys playing up to their potential, a burner like Josh Malone to go deep every now and then, put Dobbs, Hurd and Kamara in the backfield simultaneously, have Dobbs only pass 15 times a game... win a crap ton of games.
     
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  18. MWR

    MWR Contributor

    Or maybe off the charts.
     
  19. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Went to the White House...Again

    from hs to college it didn't look like Hurd had great vision to me and for as treadmill fast as he was, he couldn't hit the holes that were there for other rbs getting 6 ypc. I'm sure he would be better in I form, but it doesn't change his lack of vision and feel for cutbacks. Not many teams operate without spread facets to the offense. Every championship team plays most of the game out of the gun
     
  20. cotton

    cotton Stand-up Philosopher

    You are awfully authoritative in tone, yet that doesn't make me feel like you know that much.

    I think the guy who was set to be the all-time leading rusher in Tennessee history, who averaged 4.7ypc his first two seasons, and who scored more than 2 dozen TDs behind an underachieving OLine in the dumbest offense in the history of football wasn't that bad.
     
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