Hurd Gone

Discussion in 'Vols Football' started by JT5, Oct 30, 2016.

  1. kidbourbon

    kidbourbon Well-Known Member

    I disagree on both.
     
  2. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    Plus IZ and OZ is a cheap install at that level that lets you do a lot of window dressing.
     
  3. Indy

    Indy Pronoun Analyst

    Based on what, for Kamara? One game against a crappy run defense?

    Hurd's numbers during his time here despite a shit OL, poor coaching, and an atrocious scheme speak for themselves.
     
  4. kidbourbon

    kidbourbon Well-Known Member

    (1) There's an entire thread on this.
    (2) Indeed, 4 ypc speaks for itself.
     
  5. Indy

    Indy Pronoun Analyst

    No, 4 ypc does not speak for itself, just as Leonard Fournette's 2.1 ypc against Bama this weekend didn't "speak for itself."
     
  6. kidbourbon

    kidbourbon Well-Known Member

    Actually, both clearly do.
     
  7. Indy

    Indy Pronoun Analyst

    And what does Fournette's 2.1 ypc say?
     
  8. kidbourbon

    kidbourbon Well-Known Member

    Alabama is good at defense.
     
  9. Indy

    Indy Pronoun Analyst

    Exactly. It doesn't speak to his overall abilities as a running back.

    Similarly, Hurd's 4 ypc says he played in a scheme that didn't highlight his strengths, dealt with shitty OL play his entire career, And was a victim of constant horrible playcalling.
     
  10. kidbourbon

    kidbourbon Well-Known Member

    So, Hurd is a great running back, just not at UT? Okay.
     
  11. juicemane

    juicemane Member

    i can buy it. Hurd is a power back. Who knows how good he could have been in an offense that was suited for him, but butch's certainly wasn't it.
     
  12. Indy

    Indy Pronoun Analyst

    The kid was on pace to be UT's all time leading rusher. I think he was a great back here.

    My point is that if we are making a list of all the reasons Hurd didn't average more than 4 yards per carry, there are at least 5 factors I list that are not under Hurd's control before I get to one that's his fault.
     
  13. kidbourbon

    kidbourbon Well-Known Member

    (1)
    Then why do you have to make excuses for him?

    (2)
    Your excuses are noted.
     
  14. juicemane

    juicemane Member

    It helps when you start from day 1.
     
  15. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    That you better be able to throw or run option against elite defenses or they'll shut down the run game
     
  16. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    I can think of a few, especially considering several on here have shared that they've had relatives pass away with Down Syndrome. You were probably too busy dreaming of getting Eiffel Towered by Johnny Manziel and Tyler Bray to notice.
     
  17. Lexvol

    Lexvol Super Moderator

    Hurd is a good back....but this staff's zeal to keep him has left Kamara and Kelly severely under utilized....and the players know it. In the end, the personnel decisions of this staff baffle me more than the f'd up offensive scheme and the terrible situational play calls.
     
  18. NYY

    NYY Super Moderator

    Yep.

    Post more.
     
  19. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    One guy in the media (I think perhaps Hyams) was saying one of the promises made to Hurd at the end of last season would be that Kamara would actually share more of the load and keep Hurd from getting beat up so much. Who knows if that's true, just thought it was interesting and putting it out there.
     
  20. kidbourbon

    kidbourbon Well-Known Member

    What words would you use?
     

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