Tennessee vs. Iowa Round of 32 NCAA Tournament

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  1. lylsmorr

    lylsmorr Super Moderator

    You live in your hypotheticals, I'll live in mine I guess.
     
  2. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    If Admiral shot that shot spefically for a 2 for 1, then it was a bad shot. We were always going to get the ball back because Iowa would be down, at least, 2 and they won't run down the shot clock to try and tie the game. They would look to tie the game as soon as possible while having time left over to foul or whatever, if they missed. We should've gone for a good shot, instead, by going inside to Grant.

    Teams don't really run a 2 for 1 at the end of games. Those are different scenarios.
     
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  3. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    I agree, I just think it wasn't a decent shot.
     
  4. cotton

    cotton Stand-up Philosopher

    This was a very good scenario fora 2 for one because it gave us two chances to ice the game instead of one. I don't understand the difficulty with this concept.
     
  5. cotton

    cotton Stand-up Philosopher

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    I'm not sure you are using "hypothetical" correctly.
     
  6. cotton

    cotton Stand-up Philosopher

    That's a debatable point. I didn't mind it, partially bc he's hit so damned many if those.
     
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  7. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    Because we were always going to get another possession, no matter what. The 2 for 1 is an idea at the half (or quarter) when teams are just running their offense and will use all of the shot clock. The end of the game is different because the team which is behind needs to score ASAP, unlike at the end of the half.
     
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  8. Indy

    Indy Pronoun Analyst

    Hadn’t scored since the 13:08 mark. Only had 2 points in the second half.

    Like you said, it’s debatable. I’d prefer for us to feed Grant.
     
  9. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Went to the White House...Again

    100% hpothetical to say we were always getting another possession without the 2 for 1.
    Iowa could call a timeout and go for the dagger 3 at the buzzer. Or rebound a miss. Maybe get an and1 or another 3 off a long rebound. Both of those scenarios put us down with a couple seconds left.
     
  10. cotton

    cotton Stand-up Philosopher

    You are mistaken. When you can use the clock and shotclock to get an extra posession up two at the end if the game, you do it. We could, we did, and it was right.

    I have no idea why you seem to think this is some trick only available at quarters and halfs. We had two chances to finish them instead if one. That's better than having only one.
     
  11. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    Why would they wait until a few seconds left to take a shot when they are down 2? You don't gamble on just one final shot when you are losing.
     
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  12. cotton

    cotton Stand-up Philosopher

    The thing that happened is not hypothetical.
     
  13. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Went to the White House...Again

    There have been plenty of coaches and teams over the years go for a game ending 3. Especially teams looking for an upset, and, spent from a big comeback. The point is the 2 for 1 takes away that particular option.
     
  14. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    I don't know why this is so difficult for you to understand that the point of doing a 2 for 1 is getting a second possession, but, in that scenario, we were always going to get a second. Iowa was not going to wind the clock down to make sure we didn't get the ball again. They had to score and they would do it as soon as they could. We were getting the bask back anyway, nullifying the need for a 2 for 1. The only 2 for 1 you do in this scenario is in a tie game.
     
  15. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    No, they wouldn't. Stop. No coach, down 2 with 30 seconds left in the NCAA tournament is going to run the clock down to get one last second shot to win. This is just silly. You give your team a s many chances to win as possible.
     
  16. chef65

    chef65 Contributor

    Barnes needs to use more timeouts to chew ass when other teams go berserk.
     
  17. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Went to the White House...Again

    2 for 1 does exactly what you mentioned...give the team more chances to win.
    As far as "no coach would...", thats an assumption and hypothetical. "Go for the 3 and the win on the road", especially as a dog, happens weekly.
     
  18. TennTradition

    TennTradition Super Moderator

    I feel like some of you must have felt in the 1 vs .99999... debate. I get it, but I just don’t care.
     
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  19. Indy

    Indy Pronoun Analyst

    I think you might be thinking of going for 2 and the win, rather than kicking the extra point for OT.
     
  20. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    They weren't on the road. This isn't a regular season game, it's the tournament.

    Your scenario is not plausible for today's situation. Iowa was not going to hold the ball down 2 under 30 seconds to go.
     

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