POLITICS 2020 Election

Discussion in 'Politicants' started by CardinalVol, Nov 7, 2018.

  1. zehr27

    zehr27 8th's VIP

    OK
     
  2. The Dooz

    The Dooz Super Moderator

    OK.
     
  3. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    1. Trump Jr indicted
    2. Avenatti lays claim to playing key role
    3. CNN starts to love him again, gains traction.
    4. He carries the Trump haters while beto/Spartacus/pocahontas split left
    5. Avenatti vs Hillary primary showdown
     
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  4. The Dooz

    The Dooz Super Moderator

    Ok.
     
  5. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    I predict the Democratic nominee will be someone we have not heard of yet.
     
  6. gcbvol

    gcbvol Fabulous Moderator

    I'm going to keep believing this country tires of the hateful rhetoric and division. Avenatti is another Trump and has admitted as much. Fire with fire and such. I believe enough of the electorate is smart enough to understand we need something different. I've said it before - this is not sustainable.
     
  7. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    The "exhausted majority". And the next two years are going to be very hard on Trump, he will be more and more combative (as we saw yesterday) and it will not end well for him.

    But I have been wrong about Teflon Don for so long, odds are he is elected President for Life.
     
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  8. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    Both sides are built around running on identity politics, and ever cycle has to get charged just a little bit more to move the line.

    I don't see this changing anytime soon.
     
  9. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    This is precicely why Avenatti is the democrat answer. He can go toe to toe with him.
     
  10. JT5

    JT5 Super Moderator

    No evidence to support it, but I’ll bet he has too many skeletons to actually try a serious Presidential run.
     
  11. JT5

    JT5 Super Moderator

    if ever there were a perfect storm for a third party, it’s following 4 years of Trump, followed by 4 years of Avenatti.
     
  12. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    Oh, jeez, Venezuela, too. You've got almost all the right wing clichés down. Never mind actual analysis of what happened there. The problem is that you seem to understand it as an either/or deal. We already have some amount of "socialist" programs here in America, but it doesn't mean the government is going to nationalize Taco Bell. Plenty of nations have developed a very popular system of universal health care without turning into Venezuela. It's a lazy trope now.

    Trump got "results" because he had almost no resistance. He has had every branch of the government on his side, until now. This idea of being "undermined" is absurd. He undermines himself with his incompetence, but he's going to have some real resistance now.
     
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  13. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    More people get moved by those that inspire than those who tear down. Hillary had zero ability to inspire and still had a great shot at winning. The Democrats need to find someone who can follow the Obama pathway, even to a lesser extent. Trump's support is overstated, but the Democrats haven't offered anything to counter him in terms of offering something hopeful, which is what they truly need. Offering fire for fire doesn't seem a wise philosophy. It will just alienate people.
     
  14. dc4utvols

    dc4utvols Contributor

    Atheist and leftist everywhere are praying to a God they don't believe in right now [​IMG]
     
  15. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    Obama the president and the candidate were totally different though.

    Obama ran on a very middle of the road platform and talked about cutting spending and waste the first time. Hell I even voted for him the first time, because I was hopeful of that message.
     
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  16. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    No, it wasn't massive or decisive. You are deluding yourself. The result hinged on razor thin margins in a number of states, where he managed a royal flush to win almost all of them. Plus, Hillary was the weakest candidate among Democrats since Walter Mondale, so I wouldn't assume anything about a weaker candidate.

    If you want an indication about him running on "results", too, look at the Tuesday elections. He got boat raced, for the most part, and a significant number voted, in a high turnout election, specifically against him. This New Math of yours isn't going to add up how you necessarily thin it will, unless the Democrats manage to put forth an even weaker candidate than Hillary, which would be remarkable incompetence.
     
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  17. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    Nope.
     
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  18. dc4utvols

    dc4utvols Contributor

    She should take this as a sign to retire but she will not
     
  19. VolDad

    VolDad Super Moderator

    She hates Trump and will hang on as long as possible.
     
  20. dc4utvols

    dc4utvols Contributor

    I love Clarence Thomas but want him to retire also. I would love to see two or more young 40ish originalist guys or gals put on the bench before the clown rides off into the sunset in his gold plated golf cart.
     

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