Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) says he could have used a better choice of words in a speech about abortion that drew a rebuke from Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts and condemnations from Senate Republicans. “I should not have used the words I used yesterday. They did not come out the way I intended to,” Schumer said Thursday in a speech on the Senate floor. “My point was there would be political consequences, for President Trump and Senate Republicans — if the Supreme Court, with newly confirmed justices, stripped away a woman’s right to choose.”
It’s not his Party. If it was, they wouldn’t be who they are, and he wouldn’t be who he is. This is his problem.
I accept this as being true. I can see how some could argue that it was a physical threat, but there’s no way that he intended that way, or even close to it, IMO.
I believe that she only stayed in until Bloomberg dropped out. There is a schism between Warren and Sanders that may or may not be important, if not insignificant.
But he has them by the short hairs. Is he serious about the shit that he says or not is the question. He's made a nice career off of selling his rhetoric. But now is time for the rubber to meet the road, and he's just not a fighter. You can't call what Biden, Hilary, and the rest of the establishment stands for and represents the biggest threat to the American way of life, and then play buddy with them. But that's what he does over and over again.
First, Bernie is an absolute true believer. He may be the most personally sincere politician of our lifetimes. But you needn’t look further than his decades-long record in the Senate to see how utterly ineffective he has always been at actually enacting the things he wants, or some semblance of them. Bernie’s message if free-shit-for-all sounds good to millennials; not because it makes sense, but because he’s the only candidate speaking to them. He’s all that they have. He’s a lot like Trump to his supporters, in that regard. Your point is a very good one - and you need to pull it out whenever you see some dipshit starts talking about how important it is that a politician be nice / likable / etc. Bernie is a communist parading as a nice guy, and who only likes attention and to hear himself talk.
He has no choice. Roughly 35% of the Democratic electorate align with his ideology. If he goes full burn it down where do you think he grows? I's? R's? I don't see any space for him to grow at this time. His ceiling is much stronger than glass, it's titanium.
I’ll let the stupid libs and yellow dogs yell at me all day long - I honestly don’t care - the DNC as a Party has completely lost its way. It has some loosely-held sort of squinty-eyed vision for what it’s for and wants...sort of, kind of, sometimes....but have no definitive or firm plan to do anything, really.....no message, no platform supporting that message, no vision for where they want to go, or seemingly, even an inkling of understanding as to where things currently stand and they now find themselves. Worst, they seem incapable of admitting this reality and in making necessary corrective adjustments, but which they’ve thus far lacked the intelligence and fortitude to do. Trump should have been a gigantic wake up call as to where things were headed, and instead of formulating a plan to counter that, they’ve spent 2 years claiming that Russians did it, and in basically being whiny punks who prefer throwing tantrums to winning elections. They’re going to continue to get hammered until they see themselves with anything but full and unflinching honesty. And their current state has infinitely more to do with their own failings than any success for Trump. He’s greatly benefited from their dysfunction, just as he will continue to do, but he isn’t the cause of it, by any means. They’ve done - and are doing - this to themselves.
All fair points. Ignoring the will of 35% of their base has done this to the Dems. If Bernie has them by the short hairs, it’s because they’ve placed them in his hands, and allow them to remain there. You’d think that a Party who believes themselves to be overflowing with genius-level intellectuals would have long ago found away to tap into the reality that a great many millennials are fighting a rigged system, by and large. And could have figured out some way to better reach this group who still greatly care about issues like the environment / abortion / racism / sexism, etc., but who also and greatly care about earning a decent wage, to not be constricted by crushing student loan debt, and who may someday be able to also own a home and raise a family, too, just as previous generations have enjoyed. I don’t know, but I’m certain that I’m not smart enough to get it. And that I’m racist, can’t leave that one out, either.
There were candidates who were trying to address these things, but parts of the electorate were not interested in listening. Bernie isn't the only one speaking to millenial concerns, BUT he's been doing it the longest and definitely the loudest. So they're loyal to him and understandably so. That said, let's not pretend he's the only one with agendas to address progressive concerns. I'd argue Warren is just as good/better on many of these issues with actual detailed plans on how to do it (whether you agree with them or not). And she's a much better messenger to boot. From a progressive perspective I believe she's a significantly better choice than is Sanders, however she's not a) A Dem Socialist or b) calling for revolution. Bernie is the anger candidate and the angry aren't leaving him even though other candidates could actually have much more success delivering progress.
Bernie has actually failed to get out the youth vote. Bernie would be in serious trouble without the brown vote right now.
They’ve (almost) been too long ignored. They’ve listened long enough, and for what? Nothing. Just like the GOP’s ignoring large parts of its base for corporate interests brought forth Trump, the Dems have brought forth Bernie and AOC, and for the exact same reasons - corporate interests.
He's supported people and policy that was(in his eyes) less harmful than doing nothing/supporting no one. That's a cornerstone of leftist politics that is currently being disrupted by some of the hyper-online types who are overestimating their political sway but is a non-issue for most. I'm personally farther left than anyone I've ever voted for. Why did I vote for them? Because I thought they'd do less damage than the other people running. I have no interest in anyone who would rather smell their own farts and keep their "pure" voting record while never lifting a finger to push for the improvements they actually have the political capital to make.
citizens don't have a record of their votes. we just vote. it is some kind of narcissism to think your voting for the lesser evil is worse than completely neglecting your civic duty.
He’s on stage calling him his buddy. That’s not going to beat Biden and the machine that’s behind him.
then I guess biden wins? he should not lie and act like biden is his enemy or terrible to win an election. there are actual terrible people and biden isn't that. he's not my dude, but so what.
His history with credit card companies and banks is really shady. Your pick Warren made her splash in Washington by attacking those systems and Biden personally. Sanders should call a spade a spade. Instead of railing against the establishment, while also buddying up to it.
This is actually the big story many have missed. Kids don't vote. If they did, college would've been free years ago. But, civic duty stuff usually doesn't register until later in life and Bernie just doesn't have the moxie to bring in the non-revolutionaries. AOC saying Biden benefited from "low expectations" is seriously whistling past the graveyard and full denial of reality.
I like it when people on here explain how liberals should just behave more like conservatives. No need for him to get personal.
